Talk:Leonora Carrington
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Place of birth
editAs the article states:
born April 6, 1917 in Clayton Green, South Lancaster, Lancashire, England
In the source given in the article she says she was born in 'South Lancaster', other references say Chorley (there is a village called Clayton Green near Chorley). The place 'Crooksey Hall' is probably Crookhey Hall in Cockerham, which is south of Lancaster (but I've never heard of a place or area called 'South Lancaster'). It appears the family was connected to both Chorley and Lancaster so I'm unsure whether Clayton Green or Lancaster is correct. Snigbrook (talk) 23:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Just changed 'Crooksey' to 'Crookhey', the correct spelling. Jon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.163.121 (talk) 18:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
English artist based in Mexico
editCarrington was from England, from an English family, thus will always be of the English people (ethnic group), this is a fact. However, I'm struggling to find the evidence that she is 'Mexican nationality' - as is very bizarrely described on her wiki introduction.
As the wiki states, she moved back and forth between New York and Mexico, which implies that she had Mexico 'citizenship' or dual 'citizenship' but her nationality would still have been British.
If I move to Mexico for a lengthy period of time, I can become a citizen of that country, but I can't suddenly call myself an English-born Mexican, I'm simply a British national living in Mexico... an expat.
Carrington married and divorced Mexican ambassador Renato Leduc, but marriage doesn't change ones nationality. If I marry an Italian and move to Italy, I don't become Italian. If I marry a German and move to Germany, I don't become German.
It's my opinion that Carrington should more accurately be described as an English artist based in Mexico... or a British artist based in Mexico. Unless the British embassy in Mexico can provide evidence for her giving up her British nationality??
Solo Exhibition at Pierre Matisse Gallery
editThe article states:
The first important exhibition of her work appeared in 1947, at the Pierre Matisse Gallery in New York City.
Later in the article, under 'Exhibitions':
1942: Pierre Matisse Gallery, New York, NY (solo)
The source for this year was unavailable on http://www.artnet.com/artists/leonora-carrington/biography at the time of writing. Other sources, including http://www.jstor.org/stable/1358235 place this first solo Pierre Matisse gallery exhibition in 1948. Was there more than one exhibition at this gallery? If so, why is it not listed? If someone knows of a reliable source for this information and can clarify this article, please do so and let me know. Count ps (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
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ODNB entry not considered a good source? Very strange
editI added details from her entry in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-103734) which gives her full name- her first name being Mary- and that of her father, as well as his dates, and indicates her mother to have been "Marie Humphreys Moorhead" rather than "Maureen", which might have been a nickname (she was also called "Maurie" according to other sources), all these being commonly-included details in most biographical articles. I don't really see any reason why her full name shouldn't appear in this article, and more to the point, with a citation from what is pretty much a universally-respected source used all across Wikipedia; just seems a little odd that the edit was rolled back within minutes by Serols (who may be an admin or something like it but I can't tell as Serols has no user page). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.183.94 (talk) 17:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Nationality
editDid Carrington obtain her Mexican nationality by way of her marriage to Renato Leduc? The article does not seem to make this clear. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:32, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Lenora Carrington being described as a “Mexican artist” is insulting.
editI was lead to this article by seeing Lenora Carrington described as “the new Frieda Kahlo”. Lenora is not Mexican, and doesn’t deserve to be called a Mexican artist. The article states that she lived between New York and Mexico City for the rest of her life; by the logic of calling her a “Mexican artist”, she should equally be called an “American artist”. Her work was not heavily influenced by Mexico/Mexican culture any more than giving pieces titles in Spanish.
While it was unusual for a woman of her upbringing in Europe to wind up living part-time in Mexico, her being labeled a “British-born Mexican artist” should be removed. 104.172.54.25 (talk) 08:07, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- As this characterisation of Carrington has been questioned several times on this talkpage and not, so far as I can see, defended; and as the sources I haved checked do not describe Carrington as Mexican, I have removed the description of her as Mexican from the lead; British-born who lived much of her adult life in Mexico, as the lead now states, is certainly accurate. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 21:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)