Talk:Les Misérables/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Yash! (talk · contribs) 04:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll do it. A quick fail I guess. — Yash ^[talk] 04:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

? Azylber (talk) 07:57, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Which of the quick fail criteria does the article meet? Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 07:59, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Facepalm I'm sorry. It was just a misunderstanding. — Yash ^[talk] 08:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Lead

• (usually pron. - remove usually  Done
• In the English-speaking world the novel - rmv In the English-speaking world Done
• link Paris  Done
• including a musical and a 2012 film version of that musical. - including a musical and a 2012 film adaption of it.
• Critical reactions were very diverse, but most of them were negative. - Critical reception were diverse, however most of them were negative.
• Commercially, the work was a great success, not just in France, but also in the rest of Europe and the world. - Commercially, the work was successful in France as well as in the world.

Novel form

• The novel contains many subplots - The novel contains various subplots  Done
• but the main thread is the story of ex-convict Jean Valjean, who becomes a force for good in the world but cannot escape his dark past. - however the main thread is the story of ex-convict Jean Valjean, who becomes a force for good in the world who is unable to escape his dark past.
• the construction of the Paris sewers, argot, the street urchins of Paris - the construction of the Paris sewers, argot, the street urchins of the city
• three hundred sixty-five - 365  Done
• usually no longer than a few pages - commonly no longer than a few pages  Done
• 1900 - 1,900  Done

Hugo's sources

• Vidocq helped Hugo with his research for Claude Gueux and Le Dernier jour d'un condamné (The Last Day of a Condemned Man) - need ref
• Hugo's description of Valjean rescuing a sailor on the Orion drew almost word for word on a friend's letter describing such an incident. - need ref

Contemporary reception

• was a highly anticipated event, as Victor Hugo enjoyed a reputation - was a highly anticipated event as Victor Hugo was considered  Done
• A massive advertising campaign[17] preceded the release of the first two volumes of Les Misérables on 3 April 1862. - A massive advertising campaign preceded the release of the first two volumes of Les Misérables on 3 April 1862.[17]
• The remaining volumes appeared on 15 May 1862. - ref needed
• Critical reactions were wide-ranging and often negative. - Critical receptions were wide-ranging and often negative.
• The work was a great commercial success - rmv great  Done
• Hugo telegraphed his English publishers a one character query: "?". Hurst & Blackett replied: "!". - Hugo telegraphed his English publishers a one character query: "?" and in response Hurst & Blackett replied: "!".  Done

Mark the issues with {{done}} to keep a track of issues fixed. I'll review the Plot and Characters sections tomorrow. Thanks! — Yash ^[talk] 13:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

the reviewer has retired

Hi, User:Yash! has retired from Wikipedia. What do we do now? Is the article ready to be listed as GA or not? Azylber (talk) 18:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

The review should be closed and the article not listed. It doesn't meet GA criteria 2 due to the [citation needed] tags, 3 due to the excessively detailed plot/character and lack of analysis (theme/style/genre) section and 6 due to a fair use image without a valid rationale. maclean (talk) 02:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I reckon it doesn't need to be closed. I will deal with 2 and 6, and we can work together on 3. Azylber (talk) 11:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

• I am willing to email you some of the scholarship to base such those themes, etc. sections on but I won't be taking on this GA review. maclean (talk) 02:39, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I believe proper procedure does call for this review to be closed, which is a shame. The problem is there is no longer a reviewer to agree to its listing, unless someone else comes on board. I'm willing to help correct any outstanding problems if there's a chance of its still being successful, but I'm not too sure about that. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:43, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

This should have been quickfailed. The article has no sections on "Themes" or "Genre" or "Style", for example, and cites next to none of the published scholarship on this novel. Compare this to an article such as Cousin Bette, another 19th-century French novel. There are literally hundreds of books written on Les Miserables by literary scholars and this article does not summarize that scholarship. This is a good start, but it still needs a lot of work to cover the basic topics. Wadewitz (talk) 23:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. This article is a disaster. Not only for the gaps, but also for the writing style and the absurdly long plot summary. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 18:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)