Talk:Let's Dance (David Bowie song)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:00, 9 February 2023 (UTC)Reply


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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

This should take around two days! --K. Peake 08:00, 9 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead

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  • WP:OVERLINK of David Bowie in the infobox under songwriter(s)
  • Done
  • "originally released as" → "originally included as" and move the lead single part to the sentence after the folk origins one
  • Remove "the band" before Chic since this is not notable for the lead
  • "to a dance-number" → "to a dance number"
  • Why is rock not listed under the embraced genres?
  • Wikilink bassline
  • Above four done
  • "while the rising vocal intros were" → "while the rising vocal intro was"
  • "under a "serious moonlight" and" → "under the moonlight and" because quotations like these are not suitable for the lead
  • Done
  • The commercial performance sentence should be the one after the above one
  • "from the lyric to" → "from a line to", as the lyric in question has no context in the lead
  • Mention performances that were included in the 1980s and 2000s
  • "video games, and television commercials." → "video games and television commercials."
  • Above three done

Background and development

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  • Img looks good; really interesting choice of text!!
  • Introduce Chic as an American band, as the main character of this article is infact British
  • "musical interests,[3] eventually asking him" → "musical interests;[3] he eventually asked him"
  • For the quote of the artist informing Bowie, either place the punctuation inside the quotes if it is a full sentence or remove the comma before if not
  • "the two men regrouped" wouldn't "the duo" work better or Bowie and Rodgers, then write his home later on in the sentence?
  • "Dismissing it as" → "Dismissing the number as"
  • [9] does not mention the quote used in prose; either add one from the source or remove it from this sentence
  • All done

Demo

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  • both done

Recording

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  • "for the upcoming album." → "for the album."
  • "completed in just 17 days.[4] [8][9]" → ""completed in only 17 days.[4][8][9]""
  • "were going to play."" → "were going to play"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • Wikilink rhythm guitar
  • "vocalist David Spinner, and saxophonists" → "vocalist David Spinner and saxophonists"
  • Img looks good!
  • "other thing going on"." → "other thing going on."" since this is a full quote
  • "an old Fender amplifier, author Paul Trynka commenting" → "a former Fender amplifier; author Paul Trynka commented on" and if the amplifier is not a disused one, used something else other than former in place of old to be less repetitive
  • All done

Composition

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  • First para looks good!

Music

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  • The homage quote needs to be ended
  • "as the reason for the song's" → "as the reason for its"
  • "displaying likes of" → "displaying the likes of"
  • The Best Classic Bands ref should only be after dance-rock in the genres sentence since you shouldn't invoke it more than once here
  • "the scale – "if you should fall... into my arms", before" → "the scale – "if you should fall... into my arms" – before"
  • "boasts two interspersing hooks: "a" → "boasts the two interspersing hooks of "a"
  • Add the year of the Peter Gunn soundtrack
  • All done

Lyrics

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  • Quote box looks good!
  • "all the time."" → "all the time"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • Done

Music video

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  • Img looks good!
  • Remove overly obvious wikilink on Sydney, as it is a universally recognized city
  • "and an extra mime to" → "and an extra guest to"
  • "The video's only lyrical reference" → "The music video's only lyrical reference"
  • "says that their wearing by a female factory boss" → "says that a female factory boss wearing the outfit"
  • "puts them on, and sees a" → "putting them on and seeing a"
  • "ultimate cultural colonist."" → "ultimate cultural colonist"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • "generally – and the "Let's Dance" video in particular – as" → "generally, particularly the "Let's Dance" video, as"
  • Last para looks good!
  • All done

Release

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  • Pipe vinyl to Phonograph record
  • "running 4:07 while the latter" → "running 4:07, while the latter"
  • The AllMusic source does not provide the release date
  • "it would be his" → "the song would become his"
  • Are the dashes really needed for number one and two?
  • "in the late-1970s,[7] and changed" → "in the late-1970s and changed" moving [7] solely to the end of the sentence
  • All done

Reception

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  • "received positive reviews" → "was met with positive reviews"
  • "anyway – completely familiar."" → "anyway – completely familiar"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • "said that "[Nile] Rodgers' predictable" → "said, "[Nile] Rodgers' predictable" and add something like a writer of or the staff of before Billboard
  • "in its end-of-the-year list." → "in its list of the best tracks of 1983."
  • All done

Live performances

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  • Wikilink Serious Moonlight Tour on the img text
  • Remove overly obvious wikilink on Melbourne since that is a capital city
  • "he even dismissed it as" → "he even dismissed the song as"
  • "acoustic style" Pegg compares" → "acoustic style" that Pegg compares"
  • The date of 25 June is not sourced
  • "made return appearances on" → "made further appearances on"
  • All done

Legacy

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  • First para looks good!

Retrospective appraisal

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  • [2][57][19][46][58] shouldn't these be in numerical order?
  • Add something like the staff or a writer of for Classic Pop
  • "wrote, "[the song] is one of" → "wrote that "[the song] is one of"
  • "modern era", and further praises" → "modern era" and further praises"
  • Pipe Consequence of Sound to Consequence (publication)
  • Last para looks good!
  • All done

Cover versions and tributes

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  • Pipe interpolated to Interpolation (popular music)
  • "reworked by EMI, with Bowie's" → "reworked by EMI with Bowie's"
  • "backing vocals, and was accompanied" → "backing vocals and was accompanied"
  • Remove wikilink on Singapore, as it is a country
  • Img looks good!
  • "given away with Q magazine" sounds unspecific; be clearer about what you mean, as in was it packaged with magazine copies?
  • All done; last point clarified

Appearances in media

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  • Remove "in the film" after Bowie's cameo because this is implied
  • "arbiter of cool."" → "arbiter of cool"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • Both done

Personnel

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  • Good

Charts

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Weekly charts

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  • Pipe Los 40 Principales to Los 40
  • Done
  • Swap Digital Song Sales with Hot Rock & Alternative Songs

Year-end charts

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  • Many of the charts are overlinked from weekly ones here
  • Shouldn't Cash Box be something like Top 100?
  • Done

All-time charts

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  • Good

Certifications and sales

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  • Sales certifications for "Let's Dance" → Sales and certifications for "Let's Dance"
  • Done

Notes

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  • Good

References

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  • Copyvio score looks satisfactory at 35.9%!!
  • Cite Yahoo! as publisher instead on ref 3
  • Done
  • What exactly makes ThinWhiteDuke.net a reliable source on ref 12?
  • Above six done
  • Why does ref 47 cite the entirety of Pegg 2016?
  • Fixed
  • Cite lescharts.com as publisher instead on ref 48
  • Wikilink PopMatters on ref 54 instead of ref 58
  • Cite BBC as publisher instead on ref 59
  • Wikilink Ultimate Classic Rock on ref 66 per MOS:LINK2SECT
  • Cash Box magazine → Cash Box and remove excess full-stop on the access-date for ref 76
  • For refs 78 and 125, either cite InfoDisc as publisher as work/website for consistency
  • Above six done
  • Remove or replace refs 81, 117 and 118 per WP:SELFPUB
  • Pipe LP3 to Lista Przebojów Programu Trzeciego on ref 86
  • Cite Los 40 Principales as publisher instead and pipe to Los 40 on ref 88
  • Cite portuguesecharts.com as publisher instead on ref 101
  • Australian-charts.com → australian-charts.com and cite as publisher instead on ref 107
  • Cite Ö3 Austria Top 40 as publisher instead on ref 108
  • Cite Ultratop 50 as publisher instead on ref 109
  • Cite top-france.fr as publisher instead on ref 111
  • Cite GfK Entertainment Charts as publisher instead on ref 112
  • Cite Dutch Top 40 as publisher instead on ref 113
  • Cite Single Top 100 as publisher instead on ref 114
  • Cite Recorded Music NZ as publisher instead on ref 115
  • Cite Swiss Singles Chart as publisher instead on ref 116
  • Fix MOS:CAPS issues and WP:OVERLINK of Cash Box on ref 119
  • Cite Billboard as work/website instead on ref 126

Sources

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  • All done

Final comments and verdict

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Comment

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Hi Zmbro and Kyle, great job! Quick question and a comment if I may ... Can you please check the change in Music video section (15:09, 11 Feb) from:

"while Bowie and an extra mime to the song" to

"while Bowie and an extra guest to the song"?

Did you mean to remove "mime"? Are they miming or playing? I can't tell from the source (and know very little about how music videos are made). Rolling Stone (Ref 42) says "Bowie, ... takes his place against the front wall, next to an extra who's thumping away on a stand-up bass." But it also calls the extra a "prop bassist" so he wasn't a musician? An alternative could be to use "play" the song or perform? Also guest/s is now used three times, so pub regulars or locals or even drinkers or customers might be a substitute? (Sorry to butt in but this is one of my all-time very favourite videos and this'll come up at FAC?) JennyOz (talk) 05:25, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • Im not sure if I'll take it to FAC. I'm sure the prose is not up to standard, and given the song's popularity amongst fans and its swath of popular culture appearances, it'd be tough. Then again, "Paint It Black" was successful...so you never know. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 15:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply