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Is this an NPOV article on the Ukrainian-Biden Corruption or a hit piece on President Trump vs BLP?
editPersonal rants and opinions about Trump, Bidens, Burisma, Money, Politics -- but not article improvement. |
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SPECIFICO talk 21:56, 26 January 2020 (UTC) First of all, the use of "scandal" here is a violation of NPOV. Trump's supporters are not scandalized. If the Democrats have been attempting to make this a Trump scandal, with the cooperation of Democrat MSM, from the POV that anything & everything Trump does is awful with a cynical attempt to gain political power vs Trump. Scandal constitutes a partisan talking point. Why was this not termed Biden-Ukraine scandal? Secondly, to term the attempts of Donald Trump to investigate persons for whom there is probable cause to conclude they may have done corrupt activities while in office or in Ukraine, to term those attempts as attacks on Trump's political rivals, is a violation of NPOV, and violation of BLP vs Trump. Those attempts are more objectively termed as a president following his constitutional duty of seeing that the law is enforced. Joe Biden has bragged on video how he got a prosecutor fired in the Ukraine by threatening the delivery of a billion dollars in loan guarantee to Ukraine if they failed to fire a prosecutor in a few hours. This Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating Burisma where Hunter Biden was on the board, receiving huge amounts of money for services which should be investigated as possible indirect bribery, there evidently being no evidence that Hunter Biden had qualifications to serve on such a company's board. There is enough evidence of possible corruption between Ukraine and Bidens to necessitate that the chief law enforcement officer, the president of the USA, should push for an investigation. The fact that Joe Biden is running for president, does not give him immunity from President Trump's constitutional duty to have him investigated. Thus terming this as Trump attempting to get Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent, is a partisan spin, a violation of NPOV. The objective fact is that Trump was doing his duty to see that persons for whom there is a good possibility of corruption get investigated. And terming this a getting dirt on a political opponent is also a BLP violation vs Trump (PeacePeace (talk) 21:31, 26 January 2020 (UTC))
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Linsay Graham accusation
editI read the Newsweek account of Parnas' claim that Graham "was in the loop". I do not see the report as meriting inclusion into the page and mostly at best third hand. If information comes to light that shows Graham was aware funds to the Ukraine were being blocked until Zelensky announced an investigation into the Bidens then I will reconsider. I am only one editor making this conclusion and will listen to other opinions written here. Pbmaise (talk) 22:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Confusing statement
editAt the end of this quote, it probably should read 'into the Bidens.' or 'into Biden.'. "January 16, 2020 CNN interview [...] investigation into the Biden." Jodell1 (talk) 21:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Prison sentence
editParnas was reported to have begun his prison sentence in late 2022. This article is dated Sept. 12, 2022, and states that he showed up on the federal Bureau of Prison inmate locator "in the last couple of weeks," so he might've reported to prison in late August 2022.
The BOP inmate locator shows a Lev Parnas being released from prison on Sept. 5, 2023. Not sure how we perma-link to his record on there:
https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/
This is relevant today because Parnas is tweeting about Michael Cohen testifying in the Trump NY state prosecution. People might've thought he was still in prison; he's not.