Talk:Li Ling

Requested move 6 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Easy as it gets. Jenks24 (talk) 07:39, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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• Li Ling (general) → Li Ling
• Li Ling → Li Ling (disambiguation)

– With due respect to all the other individuals named "Li Ling", the 1st-century-BC general should be considered WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to long-term significance, if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term." The general is the only historical "Li Ling", and is well-known among all educated Chinese people today, or anyone with an interest in Chinese/Central Asian history. Let's examine the other individuals:

• Li Ling (sinologist) - doesn't have a Chinese wiki page, not even sure how notable he really is, as the article doesn't make it clear
• Li Ling (paralympian) - doesn't have a Chinese wiki page, not even sure of her Chinese name
• Li Ling (shot putter) - according to article never medalled in major world competitions, only in Asia
• Li Ling (sailor) - doesn't have a Chinese wiki page, ranked 39th in the world in 2013, only notability = placing 14th in 2012 Olympics
• Li Ling (pole vaulter) – like the shot putter, never medalled in major world competitions, only in Asia

All of these pages, with the exception of the pole vaulter (~9/day), gets less than 4 views per day. The general gets >20 views per day. So even in terms of popular usage, the general can still be regarded the primary topic, though this argument is weaker. Timmyshin (talk) 06:45, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support - per nom. The Han dynasty general has been famous for 2000 years for his defection to the Xiongnu, which changed the course of history and almost caused the death of Sima Qian, the greatest historian in Chinese history. Of the other Li Lings, most are barely notable sportspeople, the only exception being Li Ling (sinologist), who is a highly respected scholar but little known outside of academia. -Zanhe (talk) 19:31, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support per nom and User:Zanhe. The other flashes in the pan can't hold a candle to the general. —  AjaxSmack  23:58, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support per nom. This Li Ling does meet the long-term significance criteria for primary topics. Egsan Bacon (talk) 17:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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• Quick follow-up, Timmyshin: should Ling li, Ling Lee, and Ling Li redirect to this article or the dab page? Jenks24 (talk) 07:44, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Need pinyin or Hanzi box

Need pinyin for 李陵 and/or Hanzi box. 173.89.236.187 (talk) 04:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I added the pinyin, Zhing'za zï Ïnin (talk) 21:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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