Talk:Libertair, Direct, Democratisch

Fortuynism

Fortuynism is a mixture of conservative (anti-immigrant stands, strong cultural identity, nationalism, ...) and liberal stands (free market, small government, low taxes, ...). List Dedecker combines these conservative and liberal viewpoints. Pim Fortuyn's brother Maarten campaigned on behalf of List Dedecker in Flanders. He stated that 85% of the List Dedecker electoral program was identical to that of Pim Fortuyn. Jean-Marie Dedecker based its party name on Pim Fortuyn's "List Pim Fortuyn". Berchemboy 19:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Well Dedecker has been called the Flemish Wilders as well. The point is not if these viewpoints might coincide with whatever Fortuynism is supposed to be, but if Fortuynism has been a direct influence on the party as a whole. I doubt that, and haven't seen sources for this. That Fortuyn's brother campaigned for the party is indeed an inclination of Fortuynism, but I think it is best for readers to decide what to think of this. I wouldn't call someone like Bouckaert, who seems to be quite influential in the party, a Fortuynist. Intangible2.0 22:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

article name

I'm not sure about the recent name change of the article. Intangible2.0 15:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Me neither. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_Pim_Fortuyn) There, the article is named "List Pim Fortuyn" and starts by stating that it means "Pim Fortuyn List" in English ... Weird, very weird. Berchemboy 11:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted the name change. Intangible2.0 23:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

right-wing smears

I do not blame intellectuals of the looter persuasion for wanting to distance themselves from Christian National Socialism as set forth in the 25 Points, Mein Kampf and the UT collection titled Nazi Ideology Before 1933 and the Nurenberg Trials. But many of the editor-infiltrators at Wikipedia seek to lump together those opposed to the initiation of force (libertarians) and those most earnestly committed to the initiation of force as a panacea (nationalsocialists, ku-kluxers and similar Christian societies) but who happen to not appreciate the communist doctrine of faith. I can also understand their lacking the courage to identify Christian or Mohammedan racial collectivists as what they clearly are--something closely resembling other socialist entities united by revealed faith, violence and altruism. These internal dissentions, however, are your problem, not mine. I am going to have to take this case to Belgians, remind them of the explicitly religious professions of their invaders (which you class as right-wing, if right-wing has any meaning at all). I will also make the case that the Wikipedia is mis-depicting them to preserve a bipolar ideological framework inconsistent with the real world. You are in effect depicting noncommunist Belgians as Nazis by association. In the meantime you might want to reassess the wisdom of such spurious mendacity. translator (talk) 14:59, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

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Seats in European Parliament

The party still has 1 set in the EP, like is said in the lead and in the infobox?--MiguelMadeira (talk) 19:11, 24 June 2018 (UTC)