Talk:Libertarian Democrat/Archive 1

Archive 1

Notables

This should be looked at closer. Denis Leary, for example, would probably be best described as a libertarian independent who used to be a Democrat based on recent sources (see http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0707/04/gb.01.html). Faustus37 (talk) 23:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Similarly, Stossel should be taken off. The source video shows him saying that he's a libertarian, not a Democrat at all.J1.grammar natz (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done: I removed John Stossel, I agree the source does not say it and it seems unlikely he would consider himself a Democrat. –CWenger (talk) 03:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

As a Libertarian Democrat I am editing this article to be more organized, more neutral and more representative of the idea of a Libertarian Democrat, rather than just the Democratic Freedom Caucus. To avoid conflict with the previous editor(s) of this section, I would like to propose collaborating with them on a neutral, informative page for the Democratic Freedom Caucus the way the Republican Liberty Caucus also has a page. I have also removed Dennis Leary as per a suggestion by a previous visitor to this page suggestion.

Also, how do we differentiate between classical liberalism (Jefferson, Jackson, Cleveland) and libertarianism, especially progressive libertarianism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpen320 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Casing: libertarian Democrat or Libertarian Democrat

I think it should be libertarian Democrat because they are not members of the Libertarian Party. It would be akin to conservative Republican or pro-choice Democrat. It is not being used as a proper adjective in this case. The Libertarian Republican article uses the same convention. –CWenger (talk) 20:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree with that for the purposes of the article, though my bias towards thinking I am awesome, in the forum I'll mostly use Libertarian Democrat. I am very new to Wikipedia so I apologize for anything I do incorrectly. –mpen320 —Preceding undated comment added 21:09, 27 March 2011 (UTC).

No problem, and you are doing just fine for now. Keep it up! –CWenger (talk) 21:23, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Agree with CWenger. The term refers to members of the Democratic Party who identify as small "l" libertarians, so "libertarian Democrat" would be the proper casing.--JayJasper (talk) 21:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Section Titles

I saw the comment made in the editing section. I feel Politicans and Personalities is better because I think it is implied that they have libertarian Democratic ideas because they are being mentioned in a list in the article "Libertarian Democrat." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpen320 (talk • contribs) 10:50, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree. And plus, almost anybody could be described as "having libertarian Democratic ideas". What we care about is people who have actually been described that way. "Politicians and personalities" suggests that, or at worst leaves it ambiguous. –CWenger (talk) 13:37, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

I also agree that "Politicians and personalities" is more encyclopedic.--JayJasper (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Markos Moulitsas

The three articles that were cited to support the idea that Markos Moulitsas is a libertarian include one written by Moulitsas that simply discusses Democratic Libertarians, an unattributed posting on Moulitsas site that discussed the same topic, and a third article whose express purpose was to disprove the idea that Moulitsas was a libertarian. Nothing in any of those articles indicated that Moulitsas himself was a libertarian so I removed the reference.98.204.237.192 (talk) 00:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree. He basically came up with his own definition of "libertarian Democrat" and decided he was one. –CWenger (^ • @) 16:06, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Public figures

The list of "public figures" is very poorly sourced. I can't find any in which the entries are specifically called "Libertarian Democrats". Instead, it appears that there are some details in the sources which have led editors here to conclude that they qualify. If so, that's a violation of WP:NOR, a core content policy. I am going to remove all the entries that do not have sources with clear sources.   Will Beback  talk  08:00, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

5/5/2012

Most of the "public figures" have voted against civil liberties on numerous occasions, such as the PATRIOT Act, FISA, or NDAA, and are saunch supporters of heavily regulated markets, taxes, ect. I see no evidence of libertarianism with many if not all of the Congresspeople/Senators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.100.98 (talk) 19:02, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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