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References
Someone needs to cite some of the sources. The original citations were "online" and "online bio." -rayluT 02:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to edit Lillian Gilbreth Wikipedia. I was thinking of adding a section about her work on modern management. I am going to add more information for example, her management to women consumers and list the books that she worked on with her husband about Motion study. I want to make this page not a sub-class. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saraita15 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- Good idea Saraita15. These topics sound like good candidates for addition. — ¾-10 03:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Last name
Shouldn't she be referred to as "Gilbreth" in the article rather than "Lillian"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.84.238 (talk) 01:54, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Non necessarily. It's permissible to use first names where referring to the person only by last name would be ambiguous. That is certainly true in this case; the article mentions fourteen people whose last name is (or was) Gilbreth.--Pat Berry (talk) 18:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
1984
It ought to be a stated policy of Wikipedia that, if a person (or other subject) has been honored by depiction upon a postage stamp or stamps, a photograph should be posted of a nice, uncancelled copy. This policy could increase the overall BEAUTY of Wikipedia as a reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.60.165 (talk) 19:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Error
In the companies section it states that Lillian was the mother of 11 children. She was the mother of 12. Just because one passed away does not mean she was a mother of 11. She's still the mother of 12 children. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.241.65 (talk) 08:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
"Work" Subsection details and other notes
I hope to have some more time to work on this article and track down references, but if not IMO here's what could be added to flesh this section out (sorry for rambling, it's late):
- Contributions to home efficiency, specifically kitchen design. (optimized layout, appliance design such as fridge shelves, World's Fair prototype, etc.) See http://americanhistory.si.edu/ontime/saving/kitchen.html
- Improving work environment for the disabled. I am aware of Fatigue Study, but I haven't yet read detailed sources for this area and can't comment on it. However, since she's received significant awards for this particular work (like the Hoover Medal citation), more info should be included.
- More comment about the interdisciplinary nature of her work, since she is melding psychology with science and engineering which was revolutionary at the time, and how it contributed to the development of industrial engineering as a separate academic discipline.
- From Graham's source, it seems that the type of work she did before and after her husband's death changed from mechanized/factory-related motion study ("hard"), to domestic/home-ec or management consulting ("soft"). This might be one way of organizing/categorizing the points in this section.
- More restructuring and references; the flow is choppy.
As an aside, I think there is some good info for an "Early Life" subsection. (using the autobiography at least). -- Bluefrue (talk) 09:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Restructuring "References" section to allow shortened footnotes with page numbers
In the interest of text-source integrity, I would like alter the References section as follows:
- Change the name of the current "References" section to "Notes"
- Maintain the use of the "ref" tags, allowing shortened footnotes with page numbers where applicable.
- Create a new "References" section that lists any (sizeable) books used in the "Notes" section
My reasoning for this: By restructuring the references into "Notes" and "References" sections, additional information such as page numbers can be included more easily. Some texts are being cited multiple times already but without page numbers (for example, Graham's Managing on Her Own has 5 references), and as the article grows, this will become more prevalent -- books like Cheaper By The Dozen or Gilbreth's autobiography could easily be incorporated with multiple citations. For an example, see the Notes and References section of the FA on Edward Teller.