Talk:Limbus Company
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Literary references and VG layout
editHi Muuyo, I had to undo your revert. Please see WP:VG/MOS. A list of characters with literary references without any coverage by reliable sources is trivial inclusion. And it's unsourced regardless, WP:BURDEN is on you to prove it should be included. Also: standard video game article layout is gameplay -> plot -> development -> reception -> external links. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 05:51, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey @Soetermans, would using the character preview trailers on Youtube suffice as a source? Especially since they are posted to the official site itself, as well as including literary references. Including the sinners is generally important to the concept of the game anyway. ArqueKappa (talk) 01:39, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi ArqueKappa, thank for your contributions and your attempt to improve the article. I'm afraid I had to undo your edits. First, you expanded the article to twice its size, just about the characters. That's is not a correct WP:BALANCE for an article. Second, the characters' descriptions were solely in-universe. Take for instance Characters of The Last of Us: a descripton of what happens in-universe, development and reception. Third, and most importantly, you used YouTube videos by developer Project Moon. That's a WP:PRIMARY source. Reliable sources, independent of the subject are needed. For an overview of reliable sources used in video game articles, see WP:VG/RS. Hope this helps. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:29, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Understood, I'll try get ahold of some additional sources as needed. I'll do the alterations to the article as necessary. ArqueKappa (talk) 00:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- alright so I've obtained some improved sources as necessary, it wouldn't be an issue to revert changes as is, right? This source also covers most to all of the parts of the list as necessary.[1][2] Currently searching for additional articles. Thanks for the previous concern! ArqueKappa (talk) 00:58, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Understood, I'll try get ahold of some additional sources as needed. I'll do the alterations to the article as necessary. ArqueKappa (talk) 00:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi ArqueKappa, thank for your contributions and your attempt to improve the article. I'm afraid I had to undo your edits. First, you expanded the article to twice its size, just about the characters. That's is not a correct WP:BALANCE for an article. Second, the characters' descriptions were solely in-universe. Take for instance Characters of The Last of Us: a descripton of what happens in-universe, development and reception. Third, and most importantly, you used YouTube videos by developer Project Moon. That's a WP:PRIMARY source. Reliable sources, independent of the subject are needed. For an overview of reliable sources used in video game articles, see WP:VG/RS. Hope this helps. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:29, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks + Notability discussion
editHi @Soetermans! Thank you for the correction. I'm still unsure if Limbus would qualify as notable, but I figured that speaking on its reception would help make that call.
Providing a bit more material to discuss its notability, I do know the game has a much larger Korean audience. To my understanding, the biggest impact it had was being featured (or referenced?) in several news outlets due to drama surrounding one of the game's artists, with some examples being [3][4]. It also featured a decent bit of coverage on YouTube, but I don't believe that in itself is notable.
I'm stating the above in here because I'm largely unsure how to approach this. The language barrier makes it difficult to evaluate most pertinent sources of information, and I don't know if a game being controversial in South Korea makes it notable enough to warrant an article in English. Ori4thewiki (talk) 01:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Ori4thewiki, you're welcome! While this is the English language Wikipedia, topics from around the world that are notable have their own articles. Including video games!
- A good idea might be to drop by WikiProject Video Games, a collaborative effort from editors trying to improve articles related to video games. There is a list of reliable sources and a custom Google search engine that looks through those.
- Are you yourself a (native) speaker of Korean? If you can ascertain whether or not those sources are reliable, they can be used. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 07:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @Soetermans. I don't speak Korean, unfortunately. That's why I referenced the language barrier being a struggle - since I don't speak Korean, my knowledge is very largely second-hand. Otherwise, I'd absolutely evaluate and cite the sources to further improve Limbus Company's wikipedia article. Apologies if I was unclear. Past learning a new language, I'm not quite sure what more I can do for this topic, though. (I did check the custom google search engine, but couldn't find any sources. Language barrier once again, most likely.) Regardless, I do understand this is a low-importance topic, so thank you for spending time to think and explain to me what can be done with it. Have a nice day! Ori4thewiki (talk) 07:13, 11 December 2023 (UTC)