Talk:Linux desktop environments

Neutrality

I have added the NPOV tag because advantages and disadvantages should not be made sections. It is okay to recount sourced criticisms or proponents of technology but adding it to the header is taking a view about what is good rather than remaining neutral. gren グレン 02:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

regarding user Ahunt request for references about X Window

I think user Ahunt should read the X Window and copy_paste articles. Any Linux distro, including live CDs that don't need any hard disk install, allows you to verify by yourself the X Window features. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Touisiau (talk • contribs) 12:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Please read the policy at Wikipedia:Verifiability - "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—meaning, in this context, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed."

All material added needs to be referenced. Verifying something for yourself by testing it is called Original Research and is not acceptable in Wikipedia articles.

I have added a ref in this case. In the future, when you add material to articles, please include your reference. - Ahunt (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Performance

When Con Kolivas quit working on Linux, it was because of the kernel developers not focusing enough on desktop performance, but the statement from The Economist mentions the distributions that have made Linux available for the desktop. The kernel is different from the GUI so I think maybe a different argument should be used?

See http://apcmag.com/why_i_quit_kernel_developer_con_kolivas.htm

Eboyjr (talk) 08:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the Economist article has nothing to do with performance, they are talking about desktop usability, they are unrelated topics.

-Me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.73.149.21 (talk) 01:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

No mention of GNU

Desktop Linux refers to the combination specifically of the GNU Userland with the Linux Kernel. It appears odd that there is no mention of GNU within the article at all considering it is the userland used by every Linux desktop and it is implicitly assumed that a Linux Desktop refers to this combination IRWolfie- (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Well desktop Linux is not just the Linux kernel and the GNU userland, there is also X11, Perl, Python, plus all the non-GNU applications and lots more included. This whole subject is also pretty well covered in Linux, which is the parent article of this one and so putting that all in here would be duplication. For background see also GNU/Linux naming controversy. - Ahunt (talk) 15:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I am absolutely against mentioning the GNU project or the Free software movement; this article is an outsourcing of the Linux-article and as technical as possible in its nature.
Therefor this article will mention single GNU software, like e.g. GNU C Library, the GNU Core Utilities, or GNU GRUB, etc.
The article Linux for embedded systems will instead mention uClibc, BusyBox, et al.
Q.E.D. two Linux kernel-based operating systems, a.k.a. Linux operating systems, can truly have only the Linux kernel as common piece of software!
Hence the article structure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScotXW (talk • contribs)

Move to Linux on the desktop

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was procedural close. Per AfD, this article will be merged to Linux#Desktop. --BDD (talk) 17:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Linux desktop environments → Linux on the desktop – I moved Desktop Linux/Linux desktop environments to Linux on the desktop because this is what this article will be addressing. This article is NOT about the available desktop environments but more about their technical commonalities, like D-Bus and other projects hosted by freedesktop.org. It is also about Mir, €vdev, Maliit, VDPAU or projects like Liquorix. --Relisted. Steel1943 (talk) 08:13, 31 October 2013 (UTC) ScotXW (talk) 09:01, 19 October 2013 (UTC) At the moment the first paragraph is Criticism, but in the future the first paragraph will be software architecture, dealing with the middleware between the Linux kernel and GUIs like GNOME Shell, etc. The article Criticism of desktop Linux should maybe be deleted and its contents added to this article here.

I envision:

• Linux – article about all operating systems based on the Linux kernel
  • Linux range of use – outsourcing of the above article
    • Linux on the desktop – outsourcing of the above article
    • Linux as gaming platform – outsourcing of the above article
    • ...
• Linux distribution – article about a form of distribution of Linux kernel-based operating systems for supercomputers, wireless routers or desktop computers

ScotXW (talk) 09:01, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

• I had initially closed this as moved for lack of opposition, but since the article is at AfD, I'm holding off. The AfD is up for closure on November 13, so the move should not be closed before then, and a delete, merge, or redirect outcome could render this question moot anyway. (I also notice the page was already moved since its deletion nomination, which really shouldn't've happened.) --BDD (talk) 19:41, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.