Talk:Liquid light show
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I suggest that this image is inserted in this article, as it is on the german article on the subject. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Liquid_Oil_Projection.jpg
/Swedish_Liberty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.81.148.2 (talk) 10:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I have just started this page as "Light shows' was being redirected to Laser Light Shows. Most people do not consider laser shows as true light shows and a page covering this (almost) lost art is (I believe) an important addition to Wikipedia.
EDITORS. Please allow me time to create and reference this STUB in a full article.
References will prove VERY HARD TO FIND (as most good light shows kept their methods secret) and so I ask that a degree of latitude be given. I have first hand knowledge of the topic. I will do my best to reference everything but this will take time.
Limbic move
editI moved this because of Mark Hanau self promotion and source doesn't verify. If some body has sources please give them. The library.mcmaster.ca reference goes to a page of filed correspondence of a person named White. Doesn't say anything about aproduction of anything by Lohmeyer. HEre is what I moved
"The Lymbic System (London, England) was both a light show created by rock photographer/designer Mark Hanau and later a full multi media live stage show. Early Lymbic System shows (1969 to 1974) included a show using a bank of massive 5,000 watt Rieche and Vogal projectors for the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art's production of The Killer by Eugène Ionesco and a performance by Aletta Lohmeyer (daughter of German Cultural Councilor, Dr. Lohmeyer [1]) at the Goethe-Institut in London. The show pioneered the 'edge drive liquid cassette', Psycovision (a strobe projector with edge drive image holder and was one of the originators of polarized salt crystal projection. The Lymbic System later teamed with Sorrel Carson's The Actor’s Study [2] and was developed into a multimedia show with live actors combined with light special effects and film. The Lymbic System Show was managed by Roy Guest (ex General Manager of the Beatles agency NEMS) and a show was booked at the Criterion Theatre but the massive production was abruptly terminated after Roy Guest lost money on a previous show. Lymbic System later sold most of it's unique technology and graphics to Light Fantastic, a psychedelic lighting effects company founded by Peter Cutchey [3][4] (Mark Scott who's real name was Peter Cutchey was bassist in the Belfast Gypsies, the Them (band) spinoff group that made a good early Them-styled album 1967) and in commercial form achieved on-going success over the following two decades. Mark later managed Curved Air and UFO (band) and co-founded The Academy of Live and Recorded Arts in London."
-RetroS1mone (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
References
- ^ library.mcmaster.ca/archives/findaids/findaids/w/white.2.htm
- ^ http://www.thestage.co.uk/features/feature.php/7512
- ^ Peter Cutchey. http://music.aol.com/artist/mark-scott/biography/1760291
- ^ http://www.pooterland.com/index2/lightshow_menu/lightshows/optikinetics/optikinetics.html
Art Scene
editThe origins in the art scene are completely missing in this article, giving an overall wrong idea of the phenomenon. For instance, Tony Martin (http://www.tonymartin.us/statement/statement.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYkva3KxVc8) has played a crucial role, starting to create light shows with the musicians of the San Francisco Tape Music Center at the beginning of the 60ies and only afterwards (from 1965 on) working at Fillmore West with Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead etc. Maybe there are other predecessors?? Any experts around??? 77.10.164.116 (talk) 21:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I am in agreement with the above statement, it is a general flaw in the discussion of light shows to not give the theoretical and technical background provided by the art scene. That includes European experimentation going back at least until the 1940s, Scriabin, Synestheia in the arts, the Expressionists, Kandinsky, Svoboda's expanded theatrical lighting, and elsewhere, I've files on this, if someone wants to corroborate/edit what I write here please let me know., .88.100.29.119 (talk) 23:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Question
editI have a question/remark. My parents went to the 1958 World Fair in Brussels and claim there was a light show in the American Pavillion. Does anybody have more information as to the validity of their memories?
Missing light shows?
editIt looks like this page might be unduly influenced by personal biases or knowledge. People saying that they have a lot of personal knowledge of the subject is not actually a good thing on Wikipedia; we're supposed to be based on reliable published sources. Just off the top of my head, 3 of the most famous light shows are missing; Andy Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Gary Ewing's Light Show, and the Heavy Water Light Show. I will add the latter as I have some sources but I hope someone can fill in the other two.Msalt (talk) 07:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC) PS the source for stating that Glenn McKay's Headlights were the JA's usual light show is very shaky; a web page for a bootleg album containing that it purports to be a reprint of a single article by a clearly not especially knowledgeable Toronto newspaper writer offhandedly calling it and Sensefex from NYC "the light shows that accompany the bands in the dance palaces of San Francisco." Why would a NY outfit be a regular SF venue light show?Msalt (talk) 07:24, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Just to be clear, Glenn McKay's Headlights WAS the most common light show to be seen with the Jefferson Airplane during the time, often touring with them. Perhaps instead of quoting dubious "sources" to cite you might go a bit more with first hand reports. There are more than enough people from these show who are around and many of who are still active who know intimately the answers you seek. Many in the light show world, for example, never considered Andy Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable as important at all, much less worthy of imitation, and it was more famous for being part of the Warhol world than for any quality or importance at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.203.245.35 (talk) 12:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
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