Talk:List of 2021 albums (January–June)

Accessibility

I’ve noticed that the tables in the "List of YYYY albums" series are not accessible per MOS:DTAB. I was wondering if anyone would be up to editing the tables to them accessible (add captions, !/scoping of columns and rows, etc). I would do it myself, but it’s a very tedious task and I don’t exactly have all the time in the world to fix almost 20 pages. Thanks! D💘ggy54321 ^(xoxo😘) 18:27, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I could try, but after reading the MOS:DTAB and WP:DTT, I still don't understand what is being asked for. If you could tackle one month on one of the years, I could see what they want done and try to continue. One table in one year to start with is December 2011. It has 15 albums listed and six days. If you could tackle that one, or another similar table in one of the years, I could see what you did and continue, I hope. Mburrell (talk) 21:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mburrell: Will do! I’ll do December 2011 and mention you in the edit summary so you get notified. Thanks! D💘ggy54321 ^(xoxo😘) 16:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

As well, if you approve the design, I’d be happy to implement this to all the articles. It’s actually pretty fun and it’s a task I’d be willing to take on. I have all the time in the world as it’s the Family Day long weekend here in Canada, so I’m off until Tuesday. D💘ggy54321 ^(xoxo😘) 17:14, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Doggy54321:I did change some things, totally preference related. We can discuss the items you have issues with at this talk page section. Returned the centering of the release date text instead of left-aligned. Visual preference only, plus made editing very easy. Removed the text align entry for the references, I could not picture doing that for 1000 entries on some of the larger articles, and also could not picture training new users to align that one cell in the album entry and not the others, so that one is for ease of long-term table maintenance. I abhor hlist listings for these tables, and have consistently killed them off, prefering the comma separated listings, but that is just preference. However, for ease of use, reducing entries in any cell to no more than three, so three or less genres, no matter how many the album infobox calls out, no more than three labels. This list is just a summary, so for more details users can link back to the album article or the artist discography page. I absolutely agree with phasing out the producers, many have more than three producers anyway, so excessive table filling.

I completed the fourth quarter of 2011, and can do a little more over many days in multiple tables, and so can you, or any other user who wants to. If you want to discuss formatting first before we propagate more changes, lets discuss first. Otherwise, edit away as you desire. Mburrell (talk) 00:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mburrell: Thank you for the changes. I have MinervaNeue as my skin, so anything that is preceded by a "!" is automatically bold and in the center of the cell for me, and I didn’t remember that the Vector skin has it left-aligned, so thank you for that. As well, I previewed my edit and the references were all left-aligned, so I pulled a release history section card (all "Release history" sections that I’ve seen in music-related articles have the references center-aligned, see Willow (song)#Release history for an example) and aligned all the references to the center. I realize now that it will be really hard to maintain. As well, I totally respect your hlist decision. I just remembered seeing somewhere that lists of three things or more in one cell should be flat/plain/hlisted. Your producer comment was along the same thinking route as I went down, so I understand where you’re coming from. I see no need to discuss as I agree with everything you said. I’ll start this as soon as possible. Thanks! D💘ggy54321 ^(xoxo😘) 02:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Now I feel so old. I am viewing Wikipedia using Windows 10 on a desktop computer, and I have no idea about skins, MinervaNeue or Vector. I thought I was hanging on well with all you young whippersnappers, but you just left me in the dust. I am not stating my age, since you might be older than me, but you are still a young whippersnapper when you are technologically hip, one cool daddio. Mburrell (talk) 06:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Completed modifying the tables as discussed above. Mburrell (talk) 03:30, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Citations not required for albums with notable album articles

Citations are no longer required for album listings if the albums have articles with notable album articles. All albums are still required to be shown to be notable, either with a citation in the reference cell of the album listing, or with a link to an album article that is properly supported with citations from secondary independent reliable sources. Once it is determined that the album article is sufficient, the existing citation on this page for that album can be removed, or new album listings will not require the addition of a citation. There was a discussion on the talk page for List of 2020 albums where this was determined to apply for all of the List of albums pages, Talk:List of 2020 albums#Poll - Should references be removed for album listings that have appropriate album articles? Mburrell (talk) 04:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)