Talk:List of AC/DC members

Nationality, Australian vs Scottish vs Scottish Born

Nationality discussions

If you're here to dispute the nationality of AC/DC, Angus, Malcolm, Stevie or George, please understand this, This topic has been discussed countless times here and at Angus Young or brother's Malcolm Young, Stevie Young or George Young articles. All brothers were born in Glasgow, Scotland. In 1963 they moved to Sydney, Australia. AC/DC was officially formed in 1973 in Australia. The consensus discussions (listed below) and the Wikipedia community have concluded that Angus Young, Malcolm. Stevie and AC/DC will be listed as Australian. Any changes to this fact will be promptly removed. List of nationality discussions Angus's discussions Angus Young -- Scottish-Australian versus Australian Australian Angus, Malcolm George young Scottish born Austrialian musicians v just Austrialian musicians Malcolm's discussions Australian versus Scottish-Australian - Malcolm Young Nationality AC/DC discussions An Australian rock band??? AC/DC plain and simple ACDC and Scotland ACDC is a Kiwi/British/Australian Band Possible Mistakes There are too many to list here, feel free to review other discussions at AC/DC Archive index - FlightTime (open channel) 04:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Subheading

I hae changed the section subheading "temporary members" to "session musicians" which is more accurate. Flat Out let's discuss it 04:58, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I've changed it back, because no it isn't. They were considered members of the band and were not brought in as for-hire 'session musicians'. Andre666 (talk) 06:24, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

If they were considered members of the band, why arent they listed as band members? Currenti was a session drummer, George Young played live and recorded with the band but has never been credited as a member, they are either band members that didn't last long, or session musicians. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:03, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

BB do you have a view on this one?. Currenti was an Alberts/Vanda and Young drummer with Jackie Christian and Flight and recorded drums on High Voltage as a session drummer (referenced in article) rather than as a "temporary member" and that's hard to dispute. George Young was producer who filled gaps in the studio and some live performances - does that make him a temporary band band member, a very handy producer, or a producer who contributed as a session musician? Most of the former members/temporary members section is unsourced. Flat Out let's discuss it 01:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it's quite a complicated thing really. Currenti was definitely a session man, no doubts about that one. George Young – I wouldn't say he fits the general description of a session musician, i.e. someone brought in especially to play on a recording, like Currenti was. Temporary member, maybe. I doubt George was ever considered as a potentially permanent member, so maybe "temporary member" is the best description. A temporary stand-in while they were looking for a full-time member. As for Matters, Proud and Howe, I have no idea whether they were brought in as session men or actually joined the band with a view to staying on. Howe was a mate of Bon's so I'm guessing he was always going to be temporary, but the other two, I don't know. Wasn't Matters in a few promo photos? Maybe he was supposed to be a full member at that time? We definitely need to source those sections though. Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I've added some references for some of these guys. Paul Matters looks to have been a full member, albeit briefly, so maybe he should be in the other section. Proud and Currenti were both session drummers. I can't find anything concrete to say that Howe ever played with AC/DC. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:21, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Bob Richards

Should he be listed here? In my opinion no, he's not so much AC/DC's drummer as an actor playing the part of AC/DC's drummer in a couple of their videos. He has neither played on any of their sessions nor played live with them. Of course it's possible they'll decide to tour with him, but there are other candidates for the stool while Phil Rudd sorts himself out. MaxBrowne (talk) 05:47, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

I changed the heading; hope you don't mind. I see your point, and I thought the same when somebody added him. Technically I guess he's a "temporary replacement" per the section heading, and he did appear in an official AC/DC capacity, even though he didn't play live. I'm basically ambivalent about Richards, at least until he performs live (if he does). I'm not sure about BJ Wilson being there either, as he didn't play on a record or live, and there are a lot of similar situations where musicians auditioned and were not hired. Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:01, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Phil Rudd/Chris Slade

There are some general inconsistencies between who is former and who is current across the AC/DC articles. Considering the Grammys were last night with Slade performing, Slade being confirmed as the drummer for the tour, Slade's previous status as full-member back in the early 1990s, Rudd's continuing legal issues, and other reports of Rudd's "issues" with the band during the recording of the latest album (in an interview with Angus), should we not just default to Rudd being replaced by Slade until something is reported to contradict it? All signs point to yes. --Bark (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I have to disagree. Though I don't think Rudd is likely to come back, we can't chnage membership based on one live performance because we "think" it means he will do the whole tour. IMO its too soon to make a change. Flat Out let's discuss it 06:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll concede there's still a possibility of a Rudd return, but to not to update it seems out-dated to me. We can always change it again later if something happens. The lineup change is notable enough to document now considering the quotes coming from the AC/DC and Slade camps and the fact the Rudd trial has gotten pushed back. Press releases are published, the lineup has performed, the plan going forward is Slade and not Rudd. It's not like this situation hasn't been brewing for a few months. --Bark (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not news. Wikipedia is a summary of what reliable sources have to say on a subject. If you have a source I'd like to be able to verify. We edit by consenus - not who gets in first. Flat Out let's discuss it 22:27, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I think we can consolidate the discussion to the main AC/DC article.--Bark (talk) 20:21, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Why not list ALL of the albums with the lineup of Johnson, A. Young, M. Young, Williams, Rudd, instead of deleting the Rock or Bust(2014) album from said list in which they all appear? It takes nothing away from next paragraph in which you state. Quite quite odd imho...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.24.242 (talk) 03:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Photo Footer

Regardless of the drummer issue, Malcolm is no longer in the band. Stop listing the photo as the "current line-up excluding Malcolm Young" that beats the purpose of the term "current!" List it properly! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acdcguy1991 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Myths

Larry van Kriedt didn't return in January 1975 to fill in briefly after Rob Bailey was fired. My friend approached Mr van Kriedt via facebook and he said it is not true. Also, that "Paul Greg filling in for Cliff Williams" myth is not true, because Chris Slade was asked about it in one interview recently and he said it is not true (and that he "would notice if Cliff was not playing"), I am quite sure Cliff Williams has been asked the same question in an interview too and denied it. Currentpeak (talk) 00:12, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Both those stories are fairly widely sourced, and we're going to need more than Facebook and hearsay to trump them. You'd need to find the interviews with Slade and Williams, at the very least. Bretonbanquet (talk) 10:59, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, they are. That is the problem, when unconfirmed information (rumours) are published in the books. When I come across those interviews again, I will follow this up. P.S. Regarding those 2 updated refs of John Proud and Tony Currenti - the reason was, that they were both interviewed for the referenced book and debunked who drummed on the debut album, while in Wall's book it is just a rehash and it first mentions "Tony Currenti" and later on "Tony Kerrante" (somebody didn't do his homework precisely). So the sole reason was to use more accurate source. Currentpeak (talk) 14:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

No problems. The slight issue with the Fink book is that, for Wikipedia purposes, Currenti isn't a totally unbiased source for saying which songs he played on. While I don't personally doubt what he says, it's not supported by anything other than his own recollections, and as such isn't as objective as it might be. It's also directly contradicted by other sources/books who say Clack played on this and Proud played on that. Adding Wall's book as well just adds extra strength. Bretonbanquet (talk) 15:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Timeline

It seems as if the timeline isn't editable, which bothers me cause the drums have the purple color, when honestly they should be orange to connect with other timelines. SO could someone either change it to orange or maybe change it so that anyone can change it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ICommandeth (talk • contribs) 02:18, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Axl Rose

"and the current line-up of Angus Young, Cliff Williams, Stevie Young, Chris Slade and Axl Rose"

It's official now. Axl isn't just a temporary replacement. I wanted to start a discussion to avoid trouble. Wasp-1992 (talk) 14:54, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Source: http://www.acdc.com/news?n_id=308 Wasp-1992 (talk) 14:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC) Wasp-1992 (talk) 14:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Uh...no. This article states that Axl will complete the U.S. tour dates. Nothing more. If you click that link at the top of the page called "The Band," you can see that he's not there. This was the change that created consensus regarding the drummer change, and it will be what's needed to effect a change here, IMO. (http://www.acdc.com/the-band) --Bark (talk) 16:51, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

It does appear official now, at least for the time being, based on this source (there are others too on the internet). https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/major_update_on_acdcs_future_what_the_band_will_do_now_that_cliffs_retired.html --sk8punk3d288 (talk) 18:42, 22 September 2016 (EST)

Re-Order

I've reordered the lists, primarily the former members list. I followed the formula of total releases, followed by duration in the band. It's a little nebulous for Cliff, Brian, and Phil though. --Bark (talk) 15:16, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2020

The page is now outdated because Brian Johnson rejoined AC/DC in April 2019. Nikotheniko (talk) 19:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 20:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Timeline-2

I believe that there is a need for consensus on the Rose and Slade lines. And then they are lengthened, then shortened.--Joey Camelaroche (talk) 13:10, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Benny Evans

There is a Benny Evans in the timeline between Bon Scott and brian Johnson - but no mention in the article or the main AC/DC page either. Can'nt seem to find anything on a Benny Evans associated with AC/DC either. Is this supposed to be here? 60.230.161.11 (talk) 14:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

No, it was vandalism - thanks for removing it. Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2010 (UTC)