Talk:List of American Horror Story episodes
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American Horror Story (season 1)
editSometimes it's considered too early but I hope to make an American Horror Story (season 1) article soon. I'm posting here wondering if anyone has any objection to it. Reasons for the article: The ratings are great and it has been renewed. In my mind it's not too soon. A page was created for the first season of Teen Wolf and that in my mind was premature.
- You didn't sign your note, so I assume this is Let Me Eat Cake. Good luck with the idea. I quit trying to create articles for incomplete seasons when I attempted a single character page for the AHS. It was deleted because it was too early/not noteworthy. — WylieCoyote (talk) 00:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Season 1 subtitle
editA number of editors have recently tried to add "Murder House" as the subtitle for the first season, which previously didn't have one. I know there was an article floating the rumour around some time ago, but I've never seen any official confirmation of it, nor does the title appear on any of the home media releases for season one. Does anyone else have a source for the new title or is it just something the fans have come up with for consistency with "Asylum"? -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 22:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
- "Murder House" is the official subtitle for season 1, named retroactively as of November. See reliable sources here or here. -- Wikipedical (talk) 02:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Someone revert
editWould someone revert this IP that has changed the colours on seasons 4 and 5 against/without consensus. I'd do it myself if I wasn't in danger of violating 3RR. Due diligence people. LLArrow (talk) 23:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Graph
edit@Radiphus: This useless scrollbar. What's the point of it? Why not remove it if we can? It may also interest you to know that not everyone has the screen resolution as you, so just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there for other readers/editors. If someone says something appears, assume good faith and accept that it does. -- /Alex/21 12:17, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- First of all, please try and remain civil. I don't see why you need to make sarcastic statements in your first comment on a new discussion. If you are actually interested in improving this article, please try and comment on content, not on the contributor. I have a pretty standard 1920x1080 screen resolution. What is your screen resolution? Remember that the maximum allowed width for the graph is 1600 pixels and this one is only 1138 pixels wide. Reducing the graph width arbitrarily disrupts the space between the bars and makes it hard to distinguish from one another. I don't see the scrollbar as an actual problem, that would justify comprimising the graph's readability. Radiphus (talk) 12:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- When good faith is automatically not assumed by a reverting editor, I may comment on it. My resolution is 1366x768, and it, therefore, causes the scrollbar. Not sure what you're talking about with "makes it hard to distinguish from one another"; they're all still perfectly visible. Now, do you have an actual valid reason for reverting a shrinkage of a tiny 38 pixels to remove a scrollbar? Or is it just for the graph and its bars to look pretty? -- /Alex/21 13:02, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Asking you to explain what scrollbar you are referring to is not AGF? So, it's your resolution that causes the scrollbar. Similar scrollbars must appear for you on tables and other graphs. Have you thought about deleting some columns or deleting some data? That should fix the problem for you. Yes, i have a reason that i personally consider 100% valid. You just have to read my previous post to find out what that is. I suggest you start seeking consensus for your disruptive edit. Radiphus (talk) 13:15, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Automatically reverting me twice and saying "What scrollbar?", as if I was making it up, is not AGF. This is the only scrollbar I've seen recently ("recently" going as far back as I can remember). What would fix the table is shrinking it a tiny 38 pixels, barely noticeable. Nothing needs removing. Done. I recommend you not cause edit-wars over extremely minor edits solely for a reason that has zero basis, especially after I just proved that the "makes it hard to distinguish from one another" excuse completely wrong. You're status-quo stonewalling, a move considered "disruptive behavior". Fix it. -- /Alex/21 13:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- If you are going to cite WP:SQS, which i taught you in our previous discussion, in every talk page you visit in the future, i suggest you read it first. It's hard for me to continue assuming good faith with you, and since Wikipedia is not a battleground i will ignore any inappropriate comments that you are going to make. Radiphus (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- You taught me nothing, I've used it before. I have read it, and I recommend you read WP:SQSAVOID. Now give me a solid reason as to why you reverted my minor edit. -- /Alex/21 13:32, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Now give me a solid reason as to why you reverted my minor edit
Remember that the maximum allowed width for the graph is 1600 pixels and this one is only 1138 pixels wide. Reducing the graph width arbitrarily disrupts the space between the bars and makes it hard to distinguish from one another. I don't see the scrollbar as an actual problem, that would justify comprimising the graph's readability.
Radiphus (talk) 13:33, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Not sure what you're talking about with "makes it hard to distinguish from one another"; they're all still perfectly visible
Now give me a solid reason that I haven't already disproved as to why you reverted my minor edit. -- /Alex/21 13:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)\
- You taught me nothing, I've used it before. I have read it, and I recommend you read WP:SQSAVOID. Now give me a solid reason as to why you reverted my minor edit. -- /Alex/21 13:32, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- If you are going to cite WP:SQS, which i taught you in our previous discussion, in every talk page you visit in the future, i suggest you read it first. It's hard for me to continue assuming good faith with you, and since Wikipedia is not a battleground i will ignore any inappropriate comments that you are going to make. Radiphus (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Automatically reverting me twice and saying "What scrollbar?", as if I was making it up, is not AGF. This is the only scrollbar I've seen recently ("recently" going as far back as I can remember). What would fix the table is shrinking it a tiny 38 pixels, barely noticeable. Nothing needs removing. Done. I recommend you not cause edit-wars over extremely minor edits solely for a reason that has zero basis, especially after I just proved that the "makes it hard to distinguish from one another" excuse completely wrong. You're status-quo stonewalling, a move considered "disruptive behavior". Fix it. -- /Alex/21 13:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Asking you to explain what scrollbar you are referring to is not AGF? So, it's your resolution that causes the scrollbar. Similar scrollbars must appear for you on tables and other graphs. Have you thought about deleting some columns or deleting some data? That should fix the problem for you. Yes, i have a reason that i personally consider 100% valid. You just have to read my previous post to find out what that is. I suggest you start seeking consensus for your disruptive edit. Radiphus (talk) 13:15, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- When good faith is automatically not assumed by a reverting editor, I may comment on it. My resolution is 1366x768, and it, therefore, causes the scrollbar. Not sure what you're talking about with "makes it hard to distinguish from one another"; they're all still perfectly visible. Now, do you have an actual valid reason for reverting a shrinkage of a tiny 38 pixels to remove a scrollbar? Or is it just for the graph and its bars to look pretty? -- /Alex/21 13:02, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Now give me a solid reason that I haven't already disproved as to why you reverted my minor edit.
Remember that the maximum allowed width for the graph is 1600 pixels and this one is only 1138 pixels wide. Reducing the graph width arbitrarily disrupts the space between the bars and makes it hard to distinguish from one another. I don't see the scrollbar as an actual problem, that would justify comprimising the graph's readability.
Radiphus (talk) 13:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Mmm, still another nice one I've disproved, you're just unable to accept it. I see you have no reason to revert; I'll restore it later. Nice WP:SQS and WP:OWN. Cheers! (Still trying to get over the fact that you think you taught me!) -- /Alex/21 13:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- And by the way, even in your screen resolution i would take the readable graph with the scrollbar and the distinguishable bars anytime. Radiphus (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Look - completely separate bars! "hard to distinguish"? I think not. Still waiting for any essay, guideline or policy that supports reverting me? No? Is it only the fact that you wanted it to look pretty? -- /Alex/21 13:51, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- It's hard for me, yes. You might not care, but it is. Alex, you are the one that wanted to remove an "unnecessary scrollbar" to make it "look pretty". Could you provide an example from a published source using a bar chart with inconsistent spacing between the bars? Why don't you increase the bar width to 8 px, in order to increase the graph width to 1450 px? That would certainly make the scrollbar "necessary". Radiphus (talk) 14:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- And you have zero reason with a basis to revert me. Now you're just making up excuses. Classic SQS and OWN. -- /Alex/21 14:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- And i will be more than happy to see what an adminstrator would have to say about that when i report you for edit-warring and incivility. Radiphus (talk) 14:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- The edit has been restored by another editor. Gain a consensus to remove it. Cheers! -- /Alex/21 14:17, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- And i will be more than happy to see what an adminstrator would have to say about that when i report you for edit-warring and incivility. Radiphus (talk) 14:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- And you have zero reason with a basis to revert me. Now you're just making up excuses. Classic SQS and OWN. -- /Alex/21 14:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- It's hard for me, yes. You might not care, but it is. Alex, you are the one that wanted to remove an "unnecessary scrollbar" to make it "look pretty". Could you provide an example from a published source using a bar chart with inconsistent spacing between the bars? Why don't you increase the bar width to 8 px, in order to increase the graph width to 1450 px? That would certainly make the scrollbar "necessary". Radiphus (talk) 14:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Look - completely separate bars! "hard to distinguish"? I think not. Still waiting for any essay, guideline or policy that supports reverting me? No? Is it only the fact that you wanted it to look pretty? -- /Alex/21 13:51, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- And by the way, even in your screen resolution i would take the readable graph with the scrollbar and the distinguishable bars anytime. Radiphus (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Esuka, where you aware of this discussion before you restored Alex's version? Do you have to say something about the inconsistent spacing between the bars being uncommon amongst published sources as it makes it harder to read the graph? Radiphus (talk) 14:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- I was adding ratings data to the main article and did some work on the season page for 1984 around the time this disagreement was going on. It wasn't hard to miss. The graph reads fine to me, it certainly is much better than having a scrollbar at the bottom. Esuka (talk) 20:28, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Do you also have a 1366x768 screen resolution? Radiphus (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Radiphus: Since many readers will have 1366x768 resolution, why give them the unnecessary scroller. You've been told by two editors that they have it, and considering Alex's change to fix the issue was miniscule (unnoticable to anyone who does have higher resolution), why not leave it and stop picking a fight against nothing? --TedEdwards 21:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- What fight? Radiphus (talk) 22:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Radiphus,
I suggest you start seeking consensus
Done Anything else you wanted to pick a fight about or revert? If not, I think we're done here. -- /Alex/21 01:43, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Radiphus,
- What fight? Radiphus (talk) 22:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Radiphus: Since many readers will have 1366x768 resolution, why give them the unnecessary scroller. You've been told by two editors that they have it, and considering Alex's change to fix the issue was miniscule (unnoticable to anyone who does have higher resolution), why not leave it and stop picking a fight against nothing? --TedEdwards 21:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Do you also have a 1366x768 screen resolution? Radiphus (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Since Esuka restored Alex's version, without providing an explanation in the talk page, two users, Thefatihturgut and an Australian-based IP have tried fixing the spacing between the bars. Have you considered that they, like me, are having a hard time reading the graph? Is the FUCKING scrollbar that much of an issue for you? Please respect the fact that people are having trouble with your change. Wikipedia is here to convey information, not to "look pretty". Radiphus (talk) 12:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Please remain civil during discussions, else you may find other editors less willing to discuss with you. Wikipedia is indeed here to convey information in the most possible way, therefore any manner where information displayed does not necessarily need to be uniform and pretty. -- /Alex/21 12:41, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am unable to continue this discussion here. Alex 21 is making personal attacks, Esuka has said that they will not explain their edits to me, and TedEdwards thinks this is just a fight, when this is a very important issue for me. I have requested dispute resolution at WP:DRN. Radiphus (talk) 13:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Radiphus, please do not swear any further here, I have been personally attacked in your previous response. -- /Alex/21 13:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Are you a scrollbar? Radiphus (talk) 13:18, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- The response was towards me and the other editors that have taken part in the discussion here, and thus I consider it a personal attack against me; they may feel the same way, I cannot speak for them. Please remain civil during discussions, else you may find other editors less willing to discuss with you. -- /Alex/21 13:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- I think you are oonly acting offended, but i assure you this was not directed at you. It was only to point out the insignificance of the scrollbar. This is my last message in this discussion. Should have taken this to DRN a long time ago. Radiphus (talk) 13:28, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Your personal opinion is noted, and as is your personal attack. Try to be more civil from now on; you may find editors being more happy to help you. See my talk page for an example! Thank you. -- /Alex/21 13:29, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- I think you are oonly acting offended, but i assure you this was not directed at you. It was only to point out the insignificance of the scrollbar. This is my last message in this discussion. Should have taken this to DRN a long time ago. Radiphus (talk) 13:28, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- The response was towards me and the other editors that have taken part in the discussion here, and thus I consider it a personal attack against me; they may feel the same way, I cannot speak for them. Please remain civil during discussions, else you may find other editors less willing to discuss with you. -- /Alex/21 13:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Are you a scrollbar? Radiphus (talk) 13:18, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Radiphus, please do not swear any further here, I have been personally attacked in your previous response. -- /Alex/21 13:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am unable to continue this discussion here. Alex 21 is making personal attacks, Esuka has said that they will not explain their edits to me, and TedEdwards thinks this is just a fight, when this is a very important issue for me. I have requested dispute resolution at WP:DRN. Radiphus (talk) 13:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)