Talk:List of Apple II games

Should redirect to category

Ultimately this list should just redirect to Category:Apple II games. Tempshill 17:53, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. List are a very useful tool for creating wikilinks for articles that have yet to be created. Categories can't do this—they only list articles which have been created. But it belongs to the category, so that helps. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 20:30, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Somebody should cross-reference the category with the list, copying things between them that are missing from one. I may do it but not now. -- Howdybob 23:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders

Is there any evidence that Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders was actually released for Apple II? --217.140.228.11 14:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Here you go: http://www.mobygames.com/game/apple2/zak-mckracken-and-the-alien-mindbenders --MisterHand 15:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

In here [1], a collector claims that it never was... --217.140.228.11 19:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Has anyone seen or played it? --217.140.228.11 21:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Designate file games as so?

Many games were single file games that came on Dos 3.3 disks. Some came/worked on prodos. I'd like to make a designation between file games and disk games. I just wanted to come to a consensus on this.

Also, right now we're designating some games as "ports". I don't think we need to tag every game which was ported, we should just indicate in the opening paragraph that some games were ported, while others evoved to other platforms, and some are unique/exclusive to the Apple II --PZ 16:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I may be wrong, but I think a lot of the 'single file' games were originally on their own disk with custom DOS, and only became 'single file' games through the efforts of hackers (so they could be run through the familiar 'Hello' menu)

I don't think we should categorize games by the way they are carried on their media. Nandesuka 13:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Far from a complete list, of course

Is there any rationale behind the selection of games on this list? When I have some time I'll add more games to it. [Duncan, 4/5/06]

Who ever claimed it was complete? It just has games users have added to the list. Please do add to the list. BTW, the correct way to sign your name is with 3 or 4 tildes (~~~ or ~~~~). — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I added another one, my all-time favourite: XONIX. It's more commonly known on other platforms as "qix", and still popular nowadays in modern remakes. Unfortunately it's impossible to find it as a .dsk image anywhere. If anybody has some information, it would be highly appreciated. 178.73.208.223 (talk) 13:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Ports?

I've addded a few, but I don't konw if they're ports or not. Feel free to check, anybody. F15 Strike Eagle, Mont's Revenge, Silent Service, Leisure Suit Larry, Spy Hunter, Gato --Howdybob 23:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Can't Remember Name of This Game, Please Help

Okay, maybe this is not the right place for this question, so please tell me a better place in wikipedia to put it if you can think of it.

I used to play this Apple ][ RPG game a long time ago that was based on the adventures of greek mythical heroes. You could play Herakles, Perseus, Theseus, etc. It had basic B&W graphics and mixed arrow-key and typed commands interface (that I can recall). The only key bit of info I remember is that when you died, sometimes it would say, "You give an obolus to Charon" or "You become food for worms" or something like that.

Does anyone remember this game?

--Fandyllic 5:16 PDT 26 Jul 2006

Okay, I may have found it, but I can't be sure. It maybe called "Return of Heracles" as part of Age of Adventure from EA. --Fandyllic 5:25 PM PDT 26 Jul 2006

Freedom!

Anyone have any information on this game? You played an enslaved African American escaping to Canada on the underground railroad Deusfaux 03:22, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

You mean this? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 17:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Sortable table?

Anyone else think it's time to turn this list into a sortable table like this or this? The first would let users sort by year, which would be great. But the second would let the users jump to a certain section, something that couldn't be done with the first. Too bad we can't do both. Thoughts? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 17:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Educational Game - Cannot Remember What It Was Called

I used to play a game where a "dealer" was wearing a cap and smoking a cigar. I don't remember if it was a spelling game, a math game, or a game you could switch back and forth; I played several in the same period of time. One of the quotes from the game I remember most was when an answer was not correct, the word bubble would pop up with "Close, but no cigar!" I believe it was a game made by Random House, it was definitely on the Apple IIe, and I was able to play it in color, not just green screen, or B/W. I have tried to search for it, but cannot find it. Does this ring any bells for anyone? TheMagician420 (talk) 20:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC) Shifty Sam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.248.150.25 (talk) 15:04, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Tablefying

I got tired of waiting for a response and started converting this list into a table. There are several existing examples (see this, this and this), but something occurred to me as I was going through this. I omitted the Platform(s) column because these are all for the Apple II. But should I go back and add it, since there are several models of Apple II (Apple II, Apple II+, Apple IIe, Apple //c, Apple IIGS, etc.)? Or is that too much detail that no one cares about?

FWIW, there is a separate list for Apple IIGS games. It includes several of the games on this list. If we added a Platform(s) column, we could combines that list with this one. Good, bad, ugly? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:20, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Based on feedback from the Video games WikiProject here, I'm going to change the table to include:

• title
• release date (year)
• developer
• publisher
• description

So it will look like this:

Name	Year	Developer	Publisher	Description
A Mind Forever Voyaging	1985	Infocom	Infocom	An interactive fiction game, unusual in that it has only one puzzle, and that, near the end.

I'd love to hear any feedback. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 01:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Personally I'd scratch the idea of a Platform column, which although would be absolutely essential for IIGS titles, becomes a moot point if you read my mention of removing IIGS game titles below (I'm of the opinion IIGS games really don't belong on this list; "Apple II Games" then becomes as encompassing a term as "Commodore Games" in which Amiga, C64, C128, C16, VIC20, PET, etc, etc would all be listed under one article). Still, that does however leave the possibility of a platform column for the 'IIe/IIc' and 'IIc+' specific games, which there were--just incredibly few. There were less than two dozen games that specific required Double-High-Res graphics, and probably even fewer than required 128K. Even fewer yet 8-bit games that officially shipped on 3.5" floppy disks for the IIc+ (most were user made hacks to fit on this media), and I wouldn't call them IIc+ specific as they were still available on multiple 5.25" disks for the IIe/IIc. It was just a convenience of media rather than a platform-specific game. It might be worthwhile to add a "DHR" or "Double-Hi-Res" marker next to those handful of games in the list though.

Incidentally, my thumbs up for tabling the list of Apple II games, great job! It inspired me to do the same for the IIGS Game list. :) --Apple2gs (talk) 04:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Suggest removal of Apple IIGS games from list

Recently I'm noticing several Apple IIGS-specific titles appearing on this list (e.g. Arkanoid II, Alien Mind, Bubble Ghost, Manhunter: New York, Zany Golf, etc). I suggest we remove them as they're already listed in the article List of Apple IIGS Games. I've actual made it a point to remove any 8-bit Apple II games that appear over on that article in order to keep these two lists separate. Of course any games written for both platforms we'd leave, as they were two entirely different versions (e.g. Hardball, Silent Service, Marble Madness, Winter Games, Arkanoid 1, etc).

Granted the Apple IIGS is part of the Apple II line, and by that logic its games titles could be classified as "Apple II games", but in reality the machine and its games were more akin to the Amiga and Atari ST when compared to their 8-bit counter parts: the Commodore 64 and Atari 800. At any rate, I thought I'd open this to discussion before removing IIGS titles from this list. It doesn't necessarily hurt having them stay but has the potential to cause confusion with the wrongful thinking the GS had little difference from the II, II+, IIe, IIc and IIc+. --Apple2gs (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

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Book links

@Mindmaster789: I noticed the addition of direct links to books hosted on personal web sites. To avoid violating copyright, it would be best to use {{cite book}} and to include the ISBN, etc, instead. If a book's copyright is understood to have expired, then a copy can likely be found on a more specialized archive site (including archive.org)... Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 23:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

See WP:COPYLINK for more information. —PaleoNeonate – 23:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

What about sourcing the list from Total Replay?

I am currently working on a list because I want to show a manageable amount of titles to our museum visitors. Now I found this list: https://github.com/a2-4am/4cade/blob/main/res/GAMES.CONF It contains 460 games but not much info. But we could use this as a basis for growing the wikipedia list. Should I add everything in there? --Thunderbolt (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Additional columns?

I am currently working on a list because I want to show a manageable amount of titles to our museum visitors. For this use I would like to collect some more data:

• Model/Hardware - Apple II, IIe, IIgs etc
• Media/Source - where to find, eg Total Replay
• Quality - How much fun to play?
• Type of game - Adventure, arcade etc
• Input - input options like joystick, paddles, mouse, keyboard and which keys if not documented

Thunderbolt (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2023 (UTC)