Talk:List of Arjuna Award recipients (2000–2009)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that the subject of a commercially hit biographical Bollywood movie, Milkha Singh refused to accept the Indian government sports honour, Arjuna Award in 2001 citing undeserving awardees? Source: [1] [2] [3] [4]
  • ALT0b... that the subject of a biographical Bollywood movie, Milkha Singh refused to accept the Indian sporting honour, Arjuna Award in 2001 citing undeserving awardees?
  • ALT1:... that the subject of a commercially hit biographical Bollywood movie, Milkha Singh refused to accept the Indian government sports honour, Arjuna Award in 2001? Source: Same as above

• Comment: This is my 7th nomination and hence QPQ is required. Will provide the review in some time.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gnomes (book)

Created by Roller26 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:32, 30 September 2020 (UTC).

• Roller26 The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations - the non-copied content is long enough. The hook information is directly cited. I prefer the first hook. A QPQ is still needed. SL93 (talk) 00:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

• SL93, thanks for the review. I have reviewed a nomination and put the link above. I have also shortened the ALT0 hook as per feedback received by other users on making the hooks less verbose. Request to you kindly approve the ALT0b hook. Thanks. Roller26 (talk) 09:16, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

ALT0b is ready. SL93 (talk) 00:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but it's not clear why the subject of a biographical film would win a sporting honour. Perhaps the film fact could be substituted for a short description of him as an athlete? Yoninah (talk) 15:12, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah, would adding the word "sports" before biographical Bollywood movie clear the issue. Being the sole subject (and not a whole team like Chak De! India, Remember the Titans & Miracle) of a featured sports biographical movie in a mainstream cinema signifies an interesting life story and great sporting achievement/bringing fundamental change in that sport (on the lines of Moneyball and The Blind Side. Very few such movies have been made either in Bollywood, other regional Indian cinema industries or Hollywood. Roller26 (talk) 16:36, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Roller26: then you'd be repeating sports/sporting in the hook. You really have two different hooks here: the athlete refusing the award, and the athlete appearing in the film. They don't work together. Yoninah (talk) 16:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• ALT2:... that the Flying Sikh Milkha Singh refused to accept the Indian sporting honour, Arjuna Award in 2001 citing undeserving awardees? Source: [5] [6] [7] Roller26 (talk) 18:23, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• If Milkha Singh was the bolded article, you could write a hook around Flying Sikh. But here it's just an extra term that isn't linked and that makes no sense to the average reader. Try:
• ALT3: ... that Indian track and field sprinter Milkha Singh refused to accept the Arjuna Award top sporting honour, citing undeserving awardees? Yoninah (talk) 19:07, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah, I think we can simply go with sprinter. Mostly sprinter is used to denote track sprinter.
  

ALT3a: ... that Indian sprinter Milkha Singh refused to accept the Arjuna Award top sporting honour, citing undeserving awardees? Roller26 (talk) 21:19, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• Since I added the sprinter fact, we need someone else to check ALT3a. Pinging original reviewer SL93: do you think ALT3a is hooky enough? Yoninah (talk) 21:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• Approving ALT3a. SL93 (talk) 00:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

• I think we need a slight tweak of the hook to indicate whose top sporting honour this was:
• ALT3b: ... that sprinter Milkha Singh refused to accept the Arjuna Award, India's top sporting honour, citing undeserving awardees? Yoninah (talk) 18:53, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah That sounds fine. Any slight change to ALT3a can be considered as an approval from me. SL93 (talk) 20:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

• @SL93: thanks. Yoninah (talk) 20:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)