Talk:List of Canadian national ice hockey team rosters

Latest comment: 14 years ago by Djob in topic Criteria for a team's inclusion

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In the list for Men's 2005 Roster, Stephen Dixon and Colin Fraser don't point to hockey players. I don't have time to get to that myself, but maybe you could :) ColtsScore 06:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, there are others as well.94.112.217.193 (talk) 19:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Criteria for a team's inclusion

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Clearly all teams that participated in the Olympics or World Championships (men's, women's, junior) are fine, as are teams that played in special high-profile events such as the Canada Cup/World Cup or the series of 1972 (NHL), 1974 (WHA) and 2007 (junior). However, does anybody object to the removal of the 1987 Calgary Cup team? Little tournaments like that are a dime a dozen and if we open the door to that, where does it stop? Djob (talk) 20:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I argue that it was a notable tournament, but the Calgary Cup is where I would choose to draw the line. It seemed more notable than your "Average Joe" tourney like the Nagano Cup or U18 Championship... ... although slightly less notable than the WHC. Based on the amount of future NHLers that played in the tournament as a whole (as well as on the Canadian National Team at the time), I feel it should be included. DMighton (talk) 21:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
Changed my mind... it shouldn't be on this list.DMighton (talk) 21:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
"Slightly less notable than the WHC"? Whoa. It's not even in the same galaxy, as far as I'm concerned. And I would rank it below the U18 Championship in terms of significance. I don't think your "Average Joe" has ever heard of the Calgary Cup. Yeah, there are plenty of future NHLers . . . it was the Canadian national team, and they played a full season together. You can see that a significant number of the players were on the Olympic team the next year, as that was the purpose of the team's existence. I don't see why this tournament, a one-off four-team event, had any more significance than the other dozen or so tournaments they probably played in that season across North America and Europe.

But anyway, you're the only one who's responded, and you vote to leave it in, so I'll leave it. I'm interested in hearing the opinions of others, however.Djob (talk) 15:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Proposal

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I would list these:

  • Men's and Women's World Championships
  • Men's and Women's Olympics
  • Men's World Juniors
  • Summit Series/Canada Cup/World Cup of Hockey
  • Notable high level events... ie) 2007 Super Series

I would not list these:

  • Olympic Warm-Up tournaments... ie) 1987 Calgary Cup
  • Spengler Cup/AHL Canadian All-Star team... etc...
  • Under 17/Under 18/Ivan Hlinka Tourny/World Junior A Challenge rosters
  • Random Senior tourneys.... ie) Nagano Cup
  • CHL Subway Super Series/Canada-Russia Challenge Cup
  • Annual Canadian National Team rosters that did not play in Olympics/World Championships
  • Random Senior Women's tourneys.... ie) 3/4 Nations Cup

I think this will keep the list trim... but at the same time keep it very notable. DMighton (talk) 21:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'm OK with that.
I'd also like to add a standardized way to display the teams. Some are done this way already. The list should be led by the Head Coach and Assistant Coaches. The players should then be divided into "Goaltenders", "Defensemen", and "Forwards". Within these groups, they should be arranged numerically. If the uniform numbers are not known, then they should be alphabetized. All Captains and Alternates should be so designated with a "C" or "A" after their names. Next to their names should be the club team that the player was affiliated with at the time of the event--NOT all teams that the player played for the previous season.
Of course, it will take some time and research to get it all this way, but that should be the goal.Djob (talk) 23:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Reply