Talk:List of Castilian monarchs
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Merging proposed
editThis article should be merged with List of monarchs of Castile. Appleseed 21:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- Fully agreed. I also suggest to separate the monarchs of Leon and fuse them with the List of Asturian monarchs. In this I'm following the precedent of the List of Navarrese monarchs, which coherently doesn't cut the list just because the state changes the name (Pamplona -> Navarre). Asturias just changed its name to Leon but the state is one and the same.
- But Castile and Leon should be separated even if the list of monarchs is duplicated in some periods of personal union.
- I completely restructured this page. I redirect List of monarchs of Castile here. Then I merged all Leonese king lists into a List of Leonese monarchs and all the Spanish king lists are consistent. I think. Srnec 02:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Habsburg dinasty, not Trastámara
editPhilippe I and Charles I were from the Habsburg dinasty, not the Trastamara. --Hoygan!! (talk) 00:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Counts
editText and/or other creative content from this version of List of Castilian monarchs was copied or moved into List of Castilian counts with this edit on 08:34 18 May 2011. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
I am moving the Counts of Castile to a new page, as was done with Aragon several years ago. Agricolae (talk) 16:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
King of "Spain"
edit"The first monarch to style himself King of Spain was Philip II, son of Charles, who was King of Castile and Aragon, among other possessions. Nevertheless the kingdom of Castile existed on its own right within the Spanish crown and with its own law until the arrival of the Bourbon dynasty after the War of Spanish Succession"
To avoid confusions, I think it should be noted that by the and until the 19th century, "Spain" was a geographical name meaning "Peninsula Iberica", not a plitical one. "Spain" as we all know now did not yet exist, by then the Peninsula was made up by different nations that were ruled by the same king. Each nation had its own laws, civil rights... it was something similar as to nowaday's Britain and Canada, they share Queen but that's all they share. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.227.38.85 (talk) 12:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Ferdinand II?
editWhy is there no Ferdinand II in this list? There's a Ferdinand I and a Ferdinand III, but no Ferdinand II and no explanation why not. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 01:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
- The kings of Asturias, León, Galicia and Castile share a single numbering, which they also share with the later kings of Spain. This numbering excludes the earlier counts of Castile, however. Thus there are thirteen Alfonsos, but the first king of Castile with that name was Alfonso VI, who was also king of León. Alfonso VIII never ruled León and Alfonso IX never ruled Castile. The last two Alfonso were kings of Spain only and the first three of Asturias only. All these monarchs ruled kingdoms that originated as one (Asturias) and were intermittently divided and reunited. García I ruled León, but García II ruled Galicia. The first king of Castile was Sancho II in 1065. The third Ferdinand of León was the second of Castile, but after him the kings are known predominantly as kings of Castile (the bigger realm by that time) and the kingdoms are permanently united. Srnec (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Too many columns for a reigning monarch
editI don't see the point of having 2 columns for the beginning and the end of a reign of a monarch. One column is definitely more than enough.