Talk:List of Catholic churches in the United Kingdom

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Cardofk in topic organize by archdioceses?

organize by archdioceses?

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Hey, it has sort of been suggested at Talk:List of Roman Catholic churches in Leicester (by User:Cbl62) and perhaps by others elsewhere, that lists of RC churches should be organized by areas meaningful in current or historic RC church organization. So perhaps this list should be subdivided by archdiocese, say. Is there a map available about archdioceses in England or the United Kingdom? --Doncram (talk) 22:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

 
Map presented elsewhere as being "dioceses" in England and Wales

Partially addressing this is map at right, used in List of Catholic dioceses in Great Britain and elsewhere, but while it is presented as being about dioceses, it seems in fact to be about archdioceses. Or are terms "archdiocese" and "diocese" interchangeable? --Doncram (talk) 22:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

archdioceses are just a type of dioceses. The Archdiocese of Westminster refers to itself as the Diocese of Westminster. So organising it to archdiocese is not so important, especially if you want to organise the churches according to county - which are much more recognisable. After all, when I drive into Cheshire the road signs say 'Cheshire', they do not say the 'Diocese of Shrewsbury'. Also, every diocese now has its own navbox, which list all the churches in each diocese, so sorting them according to diocese here would just be repeating that. As I had to search for every church to make those navboxes anyway, I would be more than happy putting them all here according to county. There could be a small sentence at the beginning of each county section stating which diocese each church is in. Cardofk (talk) 15:02, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oh and I sorted the Scottish churches according to diocese, because Scotland has 32 council areas, most without a notable church, and any diocesan navboxes would look pretty bare anyway. Just made sense to put them all here according to diocese. Cardofk (talk) 15:06, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Doncram After sorting Northern Ireland according to historic counties, I realised I could do the same with Scotland and Wales as well. If the regions of Scotland and the Preserved counties of Wales are used, there is at least one church for each region/county. They are less than the 32 council areas of Scotland and the 22 principal areas of Wales, and they are still well-known. What do you think? Cardofk (talk) 08:11, 29 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I say go for it; you are the editor on the spot, likely more aware of what locally makes more sense than two Americans (myself and User:Cbl62). And you are ready to do the editing. As anywhere in Wikipedia, whatever we do is subject to revision later by others, but for me anyhow i am happy to defer to you. Keep up your good work! --Doncram (talk) 17:51, 29 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Nice work!
Thank you so much Doncram and Cbl62, yes, I like how you put it, I'll do what I can, happy for the next person to take it further. Cheers, Cardofk (talk) 09:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)Reply