Talk:List of Christian punk bands

Should put in something about the genre's history.

I'm thinking the lead should have a brief blurb about the nature and history of Christian punk, similar to the hardcore and metal lists, but I don't really know that much about the genre. Does anyone know of any sources that would be good for this?--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Glam metal?

According to its article, glam metal "combines elements of [hard rock and heavy metal] with punk rock". The article later reiterates that glam metal incorporates "elements of punk rock", for which it cites this source (result 2). Another source seems to also imply the connection. If either of these is valid enough, should we add Christian glam metal bands to the article? If so, where? (I was thinking of giving them their own section, but I'm open to other ideas.)--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 23:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

No. A lot of styles influence each other, that doesn't mean that they become the other style. After the whole grunge thing, I don't want to go through this again.--¿3family6 _contribs 03:03, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect, the sources are a little more specific than just "influenced by punk". The first one specifically says, "By the end of the 1970s, the glam metal scene was emerging from a mixture of heavy metal, glitter rock, and punk," and the second one seems to imply it as an outright subgenre.

However, I understand your concerns after the grunge thing. If it would reassure you, perhaps I could find someone on a relevant talk page and get their take on this?--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 17:00, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

The first one doesn't necessarily mean anything. Metal and punk constantly were mixed together since punk emerged. Yet the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, speed metal, etc. are definitely not punk. The second reference isn't making a claim for glam metal as a punk subgenre at all. It says glam is a subgenre of both metal and punk, which is true: there is glam metal and glam punk. If you want to start a discussion on the glam metal, metal, and/or punk page, go ahead.--¿3family6 _contribs 23:08, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

What is this?

So... why are bands like Owl City (That's not punk. At all. Most of his music doesn't even use but a keyboard. The source doesn't even say Christian punk, it says faith-based synth-pop), Paramore (I could have swore that they stated that their members just happen to be Christian, as was Switchfoot. Also no source for Paramore), and U2 (do I need to explain myself? They have two Christian members and a non-Christian member and are not punk) listed when bands like Antiskeptic aren't? The Juliana Theory is even listed, when the article for that band even says that they are not a Christian band. Mae is listed. The bloody Jonas Brothers are listed. Like... really? I'm not going to edit this article, because I'm seriously interested in the reasoning behind this. Is anyone confused as to what Punk and Christian punk is in either the musical or subcultural context (not in a rude way, I mean that honestly, the articles are pretty decent)? Or are people just putting in bands tongue-in-cheek? We should find sources that directly label these bands as "Christian Punk," and not go around adding bands with loose sources. If you can't call them punk in their own articles, or even Christian punk, then why would it need to be on this list? 98.198.85.83 (talk) 13:37, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Most of the bands you listed are either pop punk or post-punk/New Wave (and are noted as such in the list), and have strong ties to Christian music if they're not outright Christian bands.

Revisit listing?

So, Walter Görlitz, going back through the discussions I realize that I am now a very different editor than I was 3-4 years ago. Do you want to revisit the band listings here, or is the division of listings under different subgenres (and thus not putting glossy "pop-punk" bands next to MxPx) satisfactory to you?--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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