Talk:List of Cold War pilot defections

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Any chance this was just simply lifted from here? I'm not sure what to make of this, as "First MiG behind the Iron Curtain" seems like it belongs more on a timeline, or list of events, or, the info should be in the articles about the person(s) involved. heqs 23:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Assessment

This is terribly organized. I don't think there's a single instance of two prose sentences coming together to form even the smallest of logical paragraphs. It's just a list of dates and events. If this is going to be kept at all, it needs to have the title changed, as it obviously does not represent only the first MiG, but many. And it needs a serious overhaul of the format in which this information is presented. LordAmeth 09:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Possibly inaccurate information

"In July 1988, two Syrian pilots defected with their MiG-29's to Turkey.": I consider myself a fairly knowledgeable Turkish military aviation enthusiast with good connections to Turkish Air Force, and I have never, ever heard of this. An operational Mig-29 was still largely a mystery for NATO and the US, and it would have been big news if a Syrian Mig-29 was flown to Turkey. Nobody in the Turkish Air Force seems to recall anything like this ever happening, either.

Heavily censored and totally one-sided article.

This article pretends only commie pilots defected to the west. This is not true, as there were cases in the opposite direction! I know of at least one, where an american a/c repair technician stationed in Turkey was hired by the KGB on an offer of 1 million dollars. He climbed into his F-16 and tried to take it to the USSR, but crashed and exploded on take-off due to incompetence in flying the electric jet. 82.131.210.162 (talk) 14:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Great information! Please add it to the article. Don't forget to link it to a reliable source.

The title suggests defections by either side. Yet the summary and the examples are all of Communists defecting to the West - what about the counter traffic?

Cuban defenctions

A cuban or Angolan pilot defected in a MiG-21 via Namibia to S. Africa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.226.104.225 (talk) 23:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Would be nice to get Taiwan rewards numbers in dollars, not gold

I think that amounts of money in taels or kg of gold don't make much sense. How is the reader supposed to know what was the price of gold back then? It would have been nicer to get the number in contemporary or inflation-adjusted dollars. 76.24.104.52 (talk) 03:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

2011 Libyan defection shouldn't be here

The Libyan pilot defection in February 2011 has pretty much nothing to do with the Cold War, that's why I will delete this part. I hope it it will be later included in a fresher article about post cold war defection. For the record here is what's got to go :

"* On 21 February 2011, two Libyan Air Force colonels landed their Mirage F1 fighter jets at Malta International Airport during the 2011 Libyan protests. They defected after refusing to follow an order to fire their rockets upon Libyan protesters in Tripoli." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomworld10 (talk • contribs) 05:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• • Hi - I added this one since a number of the defections on the list are post-1991 (1996 in one case). But I agree that it shouldnt really be here and that we need a post-cold war list as this is an ongoing phenomenon. I would be happy to start a new article. Thanks. Nostalgic34 (talk) 13:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Mass defection from the Royal Lao Air Force

In 1966, about a dozen Lao pilots defected after a failed coup. They were led by General Thao Ma.

Georgejdorner (talk) 22:51, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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Israel section

The claim is dubious at best. The provided source is a news report dated two days before the aircraft wreckage was even located - in Israeli territory. The content of the section does not match the provided source: while the source reads "the Israeli pilot was met by Syrian fighter planes after he entered Syrian airspace and was escorted to a Syrian [airport]", the article section claims the pilot was "driven off from Syrian airspace".

Articles from Israeli media following the pilot's disappearance described the flight path, which never reached Syria, the circumstances of the crash, and the pilot's mental history. This is a credible source describing the incident (in Hebrew). I did not find credible sources for the defection claim. This section should be removed from the article. -M.M. מתקןמחשב (talk) 22:04, 14 August 2024 (UTC)