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- For records that were set in a single match, the year is never mentioned. For a bad example, see List_of_Cricket_World_Cup_records#Overall, which has "Lowest winning margin (runs) Australia Australia v India 1 Australia Australia v India 1".
- List_of_Cricket_World_Cup_records#Overall_3 has Imran Khan with a strike rate of 3.86 and Vaas 4.09. What is this ?
- With the onset of rain, the South African batsmen achieved the score they believed was required to win the match and then blocked out the remainder of the over to avoid losing wickets As per http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/WORLD_CUPS/WC2003/SCORECARDS/POOL-B/RSA_SL_WC2003_ODI40_03MAR2003_BBB-COMMS.html , they only blocked one ball. The fifth ball of the last over was hit for six and SAF scored 13 runs in it.
- However, the collapse ensured that the team which had greater results in the previous matches between the two teams would go through, in this case it was Australia.[3] Confusing. Keep it simple.
- "Bowling notation" says : (100/5) indicates that a bowler has captured 5 wickets while giving away 100 runs. This isn't the standard format and is not what is used in the article.
- Record holders who are currently playing ODIs or streaks that are still active and can change have an asterisk (*) next to their name. Can't see this used anywhere in the article.
- India Kapil Dev vs Zimbabwe 72 balls It has been fairly well established now that Kapil took 100 balls for 100. Cricinfo is still out of date. Tintin 06:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Netherlands did not lose ten matches in a row but nine. Their first victory in the World Cup was in 2003 over Namibia. So their losing streak did not extend from 1996 to 2007 as it had been claimed. - Ravichandar84 16:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Could Australia's tied match with South Africa be considered the lowet winning margin, technically they won, and the margin was 0
- No, as you say the match was tied so Australia didn't win. Andrew nixon (talk) 07:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Minnows
editI've changed all occurrences of "minnows" to "associates". We should use the correct term in an encyclopaedic article, plus it's a little confusing to some as one of the batting records is held by a player from a "minnow country" and one of them got to the semi-finals in 2003. Andrew nixon 07:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
The second lowest winning margin is provided as 1 run bet Aus Vs Ind but this is actually 3 runs when we click on the link. Can the same be changed as required.
Most ducks (infamous)
editWhat does this mean? If the record is simply "most ducks" then "infamous" should be removed as it's clear POV. Loganberry (Talk) 16:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- It was for the non-cricketing audience as it's not exactly a record one would like to have. Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 21:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Consecutive Victories, winning %
editI've updated the consecutive victories for Australia as follows:
2007 World Cup - 11 victories (to Semi-Final against South Africa) 2003 World Cup - 11 victories 1999 World Cup - 1 victory, 4 matches without defeat Giving totals of 11 + 11 + 1 = 23 consecutive victories and 11 + 11 + 4 = 26 matches without defeat
Please note that Australia played 11 matches in the 2003 World Cup, not 13. There were 6 matches in the group stage, 3 in the super sixes (not 5, as results of 2 matches were carried forward), Semi Final and Final.TMac 01:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Most consecutive wins
editHeads-up: India is now tied with West Indies at #2 (9 consecutive wins, starting after India's lost to RSA in 2011's WC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.32.195.21 (talk) 07:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Which is correct
The one on this page or the one at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_World_Cup#Main_individual_and_team_records —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.100.106.117 (talk) 13:23, 28 April 2007 (UTC).
- 28 is correct. Australias run started with the last 2 matches in Group A of 199, 3 wins in Super 6, Semi + Final win brings it to 7. 6 Group games, 3 super 6, and then Semi + Final in 2003 brings it to 18. 3 group games, 7 super 8 games and the semi of this year makes it 28. Some belive its 26 as Australia are down to have lost 2 Super 6 games in 1999, when infact those were games from the group stages which were played before their last 2 games, which they won.
- So this page is wrong, and I'll change it now. SportingNonsense 14:09, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hang on... The semi-final in 1999 was a tie. So it's 1999 final, six group games in 2003, three Super Six games in 2003, semi-final and final in 2003, three group games in 2007, six Super 8 games in 2007 and semi-final in 2007, making 22 consecutive wins. Andrew nixon 14:38, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oh consecutive wins, I somehow got that confused with consecutive unbeaten matches SportingNonsense 22:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- To bring this into the modern day, it is now 25 matches: 1999 Final, eleven matches in 2003, eleven matches in 2007, and two group matches (vs Zimbabwe and New Zealand) in 2011. This makes 25. Reference is here The Roar.Aspirex (talk) 07:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Trophy image
editI seem to recall a past rumpus when a cricket world cup article was on Main Page and the world cup trophy was removed because it didn't meet our copyright policies, as the artwork of the cup itself is copyright. Can someone who understands legal gibberish check this? --Dweller (talk) 16:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Notation section
editThis is a worthy idea, but should be discarded, in that we'd need to explain basic cricket notation in every quality cricket article. If we're really worried about it, the first instance of notation can be footnoted to explain how it works. --Dweller (talk) 15:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Broken references
editAll the Cricinfo links appear to be broken, can someone fix them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.120.22 (talk) 11:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
List of Records
editI can't find a list of all cricketers who attended the most ODI-World-Cups. And a list of cricketers who won the most ODI-World-Cups. Where can i get such a list? I don't found anything at www.cricinfo.com/ Thanks! :-) 77.23.23.28 (talk) 10:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Willz1208, 2 March 2011
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Fastest ODI World Cup Century
Kevin O'Brien (Ireland) vs England 2011
100 off 50 balls
Willz1208 (talk) 16:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC) Done, not by me but done nevertheless, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Already done Per above. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Willz1208, 2 March 2011
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Highest Successful run chase
Ireland 329-7 vs England 2011
Willz1208 (talk) 17:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Already done See above. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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Edit request by Lakpj Number of Centuries in a single Tournament
editAravinda De Silva scored 2 centuries during the 1996 World Cup. One against Kenya and the other in the finals against Australia. That is not included in the list of players who had scored 2 centuries.
- Please provide a reliable source for this. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: Aravinda De Silva was Added to the list. Source is already there. PK talk 10:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2015
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"Lowest winning margin (runs)" is mentioned as 1 run while in the 1999 world cup aus vs south africa the winning margin was 0 run as the match was tied as per score but australia was termed victorious on account of them beating south africa earlier in the world cup. Aayushcharlie (talk) 12:15, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Not done Technically the result was a tie, not a win [1]. Australia progressed on account of them beating south africa earlier in the world cup, but the match was still officially a tie for statistical purposes. Good spot though. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- I disagree. I believe the record should be "smallest margin" (not "smallest winning margin"). Or at least, a separate row in the table. Adpete (talk) 03:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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According to Cricinfo, the following article's stats are not updated:
- Section "Team", subsection "Overall"
"Highest win %" -> Aus 74.05% (first) / SA 65.38% (second)
"Most wins" -> Aus 58 (first) / NZ 45 (second)
"Most losses" -> Zim 41 (first) / SL 34 (second)
- Section "Batting", subsection "Overall"
"Strike rate (min. 20 inns.)" -> Brendon McCullum 116.52 (first) / AB de Villiers 115.63 (second)
"Most 50+ scores" -> Kumar Sangakkara (second, with Ricky Ponting) 11
"Most sixes in an innings" -> David Miller 9 (second, missing mention it was against Zimbabwe in 2015)
"Most runs through boundaries in an innings" -> AB de Villiers 116 in 2015 (second)
- Section "Batting", subsection "One tournament"
"Most centuries" -> info is correct, better reference is (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=matches;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;template=results;trophy=12;type=batting;view=year)
"Most 50+ scores" -> Rahul Dravid (second) year is 1999 (instead of 2003), again better reference is (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=matches;runsmin1=50;runsval1=runs;template=results;trophy=12;type=batting;view=year)
"Most sixes" -> Chris Gayle is listed second with 17 (4 inns.), he is currently 18 (5 inns.) which should place him first (ahead of Mathew Hayden who also has 18 but in 10 inns.)
- Section "Fielding", subsection "Overall"
"Most dismissals (wicketkeeper)" -> Kumar Sangakkara has 52, should be tied first with Adam Gilchrist and Brendon McCullum should be second with 32
- Section "Fielding", subsection "One match"
"Most catches (fielder)" -> Soumya Sarkar (not listed), also has 4 catches in 2015
- Section "Other Records", subsection "Captaincy"
"Best win % as captain" -> MS Dhoni has 89% (14 matches), should be listed second
Thanks
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Fifties vs. 50+ scores
editI assume that these are different, and that the latter includes centuries. But their use here seems inconsistent: the overall and one tournament batting records have "50+ scores", while the streaks has "most fifties". Shouldn't that be changed to "most 50+ scores"? However, this may change the results. StAnselm (talk) 05:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, I see from the reference that centuries are included, so clearly "50+ scores" is meant. I will make the change myself. StAnselm (talk) 05:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
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Discrepancy between Batting and Bowling average lists
editThe qualification to get onto the batting average list seems far easier than the bowling average one. The batting average list requires 10 innings, which encompasses 249 players; the bowling one 1000 deliveries, which restricts the list to 32 players. I know we need to source this somewhere and this is getting into OR / SYNTH territory, but shouldn't Mitchel Starc with 46 wickets @ 13 be on the list? CricketArchive goes with 400 deliveries, which is 210 players, so we could switch to that as a source rather than cricinfo. My feeling is that we should use wickets as a discriminator, but can't find any sources that do the same. Spike 'em (talk) 11:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- HowStat uses 20 wickets, which is 63 players. Spike 'em (talk) 11:41, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- And ICC seem to use 50 overs. They don't state their criteria, but the list has Mullally with 50 overs, and not Shaheen Afridi, who has more wickets (16) but only bowled 47.1 overs. 300 deliveries gives a list of 296 players. Spike 'em (talk) 11:17, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Starc is now 5th on the wickets list and not on the average list, I'm changing to the cricketarchive criteria, even if it means losing some all time greats. Spike 'em (talk) 06:43, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- I have restored the 400 delivery version, please discuss here if you think this is wrong. Spike 'em (talk) 09:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, I was planning to switch to the the same criteria for Economy, cricket archive has a suitable list here. Spike 'em (talk) 09:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Which can be mirrored using statsguru here, but this list contains S Venkataraghavan in 5th place with a low economy, but no wickets. Given current scoring rates in ODIs this list is unlikely to change any time soon (ever?). Spike 'em (talk) 09:24, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- And Strike rate is here on CricketArchive and mirrored by statsguru here Spike 'em (talk) 09:26, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- and for completeness: HowStat uses 20 wickets for strike rate and 500 deliveries for Economy Spike 'em (talk) 09:32, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, I was planning to switch to the the same criteria for Economy, cricket archive has a suitable list here. Spike 'em (talk) 09:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Most consecutive centuries
editRohit Sharma has been added to the 'Streaks' table with five consecutive centuries. This is incorrect: he has scored five centuries in the 2019 tournament but not consecutively.
Source: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34102.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;view=innings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.82.94 (talk) 18:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Most runs in the Group stages in the World Cup
editI couldnt find this listing.... Rohit, Warner and Shakib have changed the order this world cup — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.73.245.178 (talk) 07:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- The World Cup had had numerous different formats, with different sized groups, so it is not clear what the criteria you expect to see here. Do you have a source which shows these figures? Spike 'em (talk) 11:38, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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What does † mean?
editThere is a † after some players' names, but it isn't defined. I wonder if it means "current player", but it might be out of date. StAnselm (talk) 15:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- StAnselm I agree that it looks like it means "current player", though this isn't mentioned anywhere, and the concept of a current player is also vague (if someone retires after this WC, then they're current as of the last WC but not a current player). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:15, 17 November 2023 (UTC)