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Redlinked names - Delta and SEALs
editThe contents of this page and List of United States Navy SEALs are vulnerable to redlinking. This has been a problem for many years, even though both articles have editor comments about non-notable names. Many of these warriors really should have WP articles because they are WP:Notable. Wikipedia editing guidance WP:RED says "Add red links to articles to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable [emphasis added]." Okay, we also have the guidance in WP:LISTPEOPLE. When we enforce a blue-link notability requirement for a list of people we avoid the problem of cluttering up the list with narrative about notability and the supporting citations for the narrative. That material belongs in the individual articles, not in these lists. In other words, interested editors should WP:WTAF. (This comment is also posted on the SEAL-list talkpage) – S. Rich (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
List
editHere is a list of the removed red-linked names, should anyone wish to create an article about any of them;
- Alfred G. Birch: Retired Sergeant Major and Silver Star Medal recipient. Served at 1st SFOD-D from 1987 to 2002, veteran of Operation Just Cause in Panama, 1989, Operation Desert Storm, Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom.[1]
- Peter Blaber: Retired Lt. Col. who was an AFO team leader during Operation Anaconda. Former B Squadron Commander. Author of the book, "The Mission, the Men, and Me."[2]
- Lewis Burruss: Retired Lieutenant Colonel. Original member of 1st SFOD-D, serving with the unit from 1978 to January 1987. Veteran of Vietnam War, Operation Eagle Claw and Operation Urgent Fury.[3]
- Daniel D. Busch: Staff Sergeant, killed in action during the Battle of Mogadishu on October 3, 1993, during Operation Gothic Serpent.[4][5]
- Jonathan Dunbar: Joined the Army 2005, served with 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, then moved to 38th Cavalry Regiment (long range surveillance) in 2009, serving in both Afghanistan and Iraq. In 2013 he moved to Special Operations Command. He was with Delta when he was killed in action in 2018.[6]
- James C. Faris: Served at 1st SFOD-D from 1990 until 2008, rising to the rank of Unit Command Sergeant Major. Awarded the Silver Star Medal for heroism during the Battle of Mogadishu in Somalia, October 1993. He had previously received the Bronze Star Medal for actions during the battle. His military career culminated as the senior enlisted leader for SOCOM before he retired in 2015.[7][8]
- Earl R. Fillmore, Jr.: Sergeant First Class, who at 24, became one of the youngest soldiers to be selected into Delta Force. Killed in action (KIA) in Mogadishu, Somalia during the Battle of Mogadishu and awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.[9][10]
- Thomas Greer: Former Troop Commander in 1st SFOD-D. He was the senior commanding officer at the Battle of Tora Bora in 2001 and wrote the book Kill Bin Laden. He served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He died in 2016 from cancer.[11]
- Kevin Holland: Served with Seal Team 8 and the Naval Special Warfare Development Group from 1989-1995, after a break in service he interviewed and passed selection for Delta Force serving as an operator in the unit from 2003-2013.[12][13]
- Norman G. Hooten: Delta Force veteran of Operation Just Cause in Panama, 1989 and Operation Gothic Serpent, Battle of Mogadishu in October 1993.[14]
- Christopher Nelms: Master Sergeant, died of wounds suffered during military free fall parachute training accident on July 27, 2018. Nelms served with Delta Force from 2008 to 2018 and deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan and Niger.[15][16]
- Eulis A. Presley: Vietnam War veteran serving with 5th Special Forces Group and Military Assistance Command, Vietnam – Studies and Observations Group. Served with 1st SFOD-D from 1979 to 1981 and participated in Operation Eagle Claw.[17]
- Walter L. Shumate: Korean War and Vietnam War veteran. Retired Sergeant Major in Delta Force, serving in the unit from its inception in 1978 to 1982.[18]
- William F. Thetford: Served at 1st SFOD-D from 1990 until 2011, rising to the rank of Unit Command Sergeant Major. Awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for heroism during the Battle of Mogadishu in Somalia, October 1993. He had previously received the Silver Star for actions during the battle. His military career culminated as the senior enlisted leader for U.S. Central Command before he retired in 2019.[19][20]
- Brad Thomas: Former Master Sergeant, served with Delta Force from 1998 to 2010, part of Task Force 121 during Operation Red Dawn. Thomas was also part of Task Force Ranger during the Battle of Mogadishu.[21][22]
- Dennis Wolfe: Retired Sergeant Major in Delta Force, serving in the unit from its inception in 1978 to 1987. Part of the inaugural class of the first Operator Training Course (OTC-1).[23]
There may be other removed names found in the page history. - wolf 04:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ "FORT BENNING U.S. Army Fort Benning and The Maneuver Center of Excellence Ranger Hall of Fame". Archived from the original on 2022-02-23.
{{cite web}}:|archive-date=/|archive-url=timestamp mismatch; 2022-02-24 suggested (help) - ^ "Pete Blaber".
- ^ "DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF THE SPECIAL FORCES REGIMENT Lewis H. Burruss Jr" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 2012-09-16.
- ^ "ON THIS DAY, OCTOBER 3, 1993, BATTLE OF MOGADISHU (BLACK HAWK DOWN)". sofrep.co. 3 October 2017. Retrieved 12 March 2022.
- ^ "Proposal to honor Portage war hero 25 years after his death". wkow.com. 11 February 2019. Retrieved March 12, 2022.
- ^ "J. Dunbar". stripes.com. Retrieved 5 July 2018.
- ^ "Legendary Special Operations Leader Among Those Receiving New Awards for Battle of Mogadishu". Retrieved December 20, 2021.
- ^ "JSOC's former top enlisted soldier is one of 60 'Black Hawk Down' award upgrades". Retrieved December 5, 2021.
- ^ "Congress authorizes Medal of Honor for 5 soldiers and awards upgrade for 4 Black Hawk Down troops". Retrieved December 29, 2021.
- ^ "SFC Earl Robert Fillmore, Jr. | in Memoriam | Mogadishu Memories – Our Memories of Somalia".
- ^ Paul D. Shinkman (October 25, 2016). "Thomas Greer, aka 'Dalton Fury,' Elite Commando-Turned Author Dies". usnews.com. Retrieved October 18, 2020.
- ^ https://special-ops.org/kevin-holland-served-in-seal-team-6-delta-force/
- ^ https://www.unitedtalent.com/speaker/kevin-holland/
- ^ "This 'Black Hawk Down' special operator is still fighting, but on a different front". February 22, 2022. Retrieved October 18, 2021.
- ^ "Army Delta Force sergeant major dies during free-fall parachute training". Retrieved August 3, 2018.
- ^ "Special operations soldier dies in parachute accident". Archived from the original on 12 March 2022. Retrieved March 12, 2022.
- ^ "Distinguished Member of the Special Forces Regiment Sergeant First Class Eulis A. Presley" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 2017-07-16. Retrieved July 13, 2017.
- ^ "DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF THE SPECIAL FORCES REGIMENT Sergeant Major Walter L. Shumate" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 2017-07-16. Retrieved December 29, 2016.
- ^ "Congress authorizes Medal of Honor for 5 soldiers and awards upgrade for 4 Black Hawk Down troops". armytimes.com. Retrieved December 24, 2021.
- ^ "Command Sergeant Major William F. Thetford". defense.gov. Archived from the original on 10 February 2022. Retrieved December 29, 2021.
- ^ Brad Thomas (April 17, 2020). "A Delta Operator Transitions from War to Music". havokjournal.com. Retrieved October 18, 2020.
- ^ "Brad Thomas: Rock Star and Delta Force". sofrep.com. 10 April 2021. Retrieved 10 February 2022.
- ^ "SGM Dennis E. Wolfe". goordnance.army.mil. 31 October 2020. Archived from the original on 31 October 2020. Retrieved 23 February 2022.
WP Notable requirement for inclusion
editThis list, and the SEAL list, contains in-line editor comments about the need for WP:Notability to be included. The editing rationales are manifold -- WP:5P1 is the starting point. When we limit the inclusion criteria we keep the list simple and useful for the reader. We avoid a clutter of references. (Such reference usually have little purpose other than to justify a non-notable name inclusion.) "Non-notable" Deltas (and SEALS) may have WP:NOTEWORTHY sources which document their lives and careers, but those sources do not overcome the need to WP:WTAF. This is simply a list article, not a listing of Deltas who have some (or more} mention in news media. – S. Rich (talk) 02:31, 15 December 2022 (UTC)