Talk:List of DuckTales (1987 TV series) episodes

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Removal of (DuckTales Episode) qualifier

Anyone know why many or most of the (DuckTales Episode) qualifiers were removed from the episode name wikilinks? I added them all in originally based on the formats used for most other TV series (DS9, TNG, ST:TOS, MacGyver, etc). El Cubano 21:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't remove them, but here's my two cents: Episode titles that could only be associated with DuckTales, such as Magica's Shadow War, don't need them. However, an episode like Armstrong would need the (Ducktales Episode), as it leads to a page that has nothing to do with DuckTales. Back to the Klondike and The Golden Fleecing do need the (DuckTales Episode) tag, as right now they lead to pages on the comics they were adapted from, and not the episodes themselves. I say don't worry about it too much until it comes time to actually create a page based on an episode. See if you can make a new article without the (DuckTales Episode) tag, and then add the tag in if necessary. Narlee 18:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE: The only episodes that I'm aware of that actually need the tags are Armstrong, Hero for Hire, Back to the Klondike, The Golden Fleecing and The Golden Goose.

I just created a seperate page for Send in the Clones. What do you all think? Narlee 21:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I like the new page. However, I think in the interest of consistency with other episode listings on Wikipedia, we should use the (DuckTales Episode) qualifier. For me, it is not so much a matter of disambiguation within Wikipedia. Rather, when people link into Wikipedia it makes it more clear. We can probably provide redirects, though, if people would like that. I just think it is consistent and misleading to have some epidoses accessible as Foo and others as Bar (DuckTales Episode). With other series, like TNG, I know that I can always get the article I want via Baz (TNG Episode). El Cubano 22:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I guess that the (DuckTales Episode) qualifer can work for all the episodes. It doesn't really matter to me either way, and it does keep a sense of continuity between the episodes. However, I've noticed that there are episode pages on Wikipedia for shows like The Simpsons which don't have qualifers like, say- The Otto Show, as nobody's going to create another article titled The Otto Show. But for an episode like The Front, they do use the qualifer, as there's a seperate article at The Front.

One question though: If we do go ahead with the qualifier, should it be (DuckTales Episode), or could we get away with just (DuckTales)? I just want to confirm everything before one of us redirects Send in the Clones and more pages are created. Narlee 23:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I would vote for (DuckTales Episode). I did a quick search of TV episode listings on Wikipedia and foudn that some series (like Friends) include almost no qualifiers, some mix the presense and absence of them (Battlestar Galactica) and others still use them for every episode (TNG and MacGyver). I think that if any episode needs it, then we should use it for all to be consistent. If we are going to use it, then I think the full qualifier should be used. For example, if there was an article for Moneybin that required additional qualification, I would say that qualifier should be (DuckTales). But for an episode, it ought to be (DuckTales Episode) so that it is plainly obvious what is linked. El Cubano 23:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure, (DuckTales Episode) works, with the exception of the multiple parters, which can just use the (DuckTales) qualifer.

/me bangs gavel

Sold! El Cubano 00:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that Sphinx for the Memories has had its qualifier removed, so not everyone is going to agree with us. Narlee 17:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Episode Order and airdates

I've poked around at various sites, and have found different airdates and orders for various episodes. Some list the first episode (after Treasure of the Golden Suns) as Armstrong like this site. While we have it as Send in the Clones. At TV.com the airdate order for the second season is totally out of whack, so I'm not sure how closely we should follow it. My suggestion is, maybe re-organize the episode order, and maybe provide a listing for the production order, like at the Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers episodes page. Here is an example of how it would look so you have an idea as to what I'm talking about.

Screenshot	Title	Original Airdate	#	Prod. Order
No Pic	"Treasure of the Golden Suns (1) - Don't Give Up the Ship"	Sep 11, 1987	1	37
	Originally aired as "Treasure of the Golden Suns", a two-hour TV movie. The introduction of the series, as Donald Duck joins the Navy and sends Huey, Dewey and Louie off to live with their uncle Scrooge McDuck. Meanwhile, a mysterious man named El Capitán busts the Beagle Boys out of jail in order for them to help him steal an awkward treasure map in Scrooge's possession.
No Pic	"Treasure of the Golden Suns (2) - Wrong Way in Ronguay"		2	38
	After foiling the Beagle Boys, Scrooge and his nephews decipher the strange marking on the map, which leads to a sunken treasure ship in Ronguay. However, Flintheart Glomgold and El Capitán are out to stop them at every turn. Glomgold's animated debut. The story is loosely based on legends of Spanish Galleons being found in the SW American desert and Northern Mexico.
No Pic	"Treasure of the Golden Suns (3) - Three Ducks of the Condor"		3	39
	Upon finding out of the Valley of the Golden Suns, Scrooge begins an expedition to find the treasure therein, starting with finding the map that leads to it. First, he must get one half of the map from High Golden Sun Priest Walking Slowly. Animated debut of Gyro Gearloose, and the first appearance of Mrs. Beakley, Webby Vanderquack, and Launchpad McQuack.
No Pic	"Treasure of the Golden Suns (4) - Cold Duck"		4	40
	The nephews, Webby, and Mrs. Beakley find themselves joining Scrooge in his adventure as he looks for the second half of the treasure map in Antarctica.
No Pic	"Treasure of the Golden Suns (5) - Too Much of a Gold Thing"		5	41
	Scrooge develops gold fever as he and the gang make their way to the Valley of the Golden Suns, all the while pursued by El Capitán.
	"Armstrong"		6	4
	The McDuck household acquires a robot named Armstrong to do their work for them. However, the robot decides it would rather work for itself. This episode was later adaptated in issue #1 of the Gladstone DuckTales comic book.
No Pic	"Luck o' the Ducks"		7	49
	After finding a leprachaun, Scrooge is now hunting for the mythical Pot of Gold.
No Pic	"Till Nephews Do Us Part"		8	65
	Scrooge is romanced by a billionairess named Millionara Vanderbucks, but as the nephews and Webby find out, she only wants his money.

Do you like this idea? Narlee 03:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks good to me. El Cubano 03:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It does look more polished, but I'd still prefer to go by production order, but listing "Golden Suns" at the front, of course. Problem is, the airdates don't look right to me. I'm pretty sure the show aired on weekday afternoons, not Saturday mornings. - Nintendo Maximus

I was only three years old when the show first aired, so I have to rely on others for the information. I'm sure that it would of had to have been put into daily syndication in 1989 sometime, after the episodes had their weekly airing. If the show actually did air daily in 1987, I'd like to know where that site even got those weekly airdates. Narlee 23:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

This site has many of the air dates screwed up. For instance, it has Di'jon's 1st appearance in the show itself. The Golden Goose Episode was listed here as being aired in '89, but the movie was released in '90 and Di'jon never appeared on the show until after the movie. Super Ducktales was originally aired Easter, 1990 on NBC, not '89 as this site listed. And I'm reasonably confidant that the Bubba Duck special, "Time is Money" originally aired Thanksgiving of '89, not '88 like this site says. I remember that shows featuring Bubba started appearing very soon after the Special was originally aired. This site would lead you to believe it was a whole year after "Time is Money" was aired that episodes featuring Bubba started appearing.--Killphil 01:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh really? I'd fix it, but I can't really find proper air dates for any of the season 2 episodes no matter where I look. It's too inconsistant from site to site.--Narlee 01:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you all know, the current order of episodes listed on Wikipedia is they aired in syndication from 1988 through 1990. In turn, the dates are all screwed up – they're one year off. If you want the list to be in order of original airing, I think TV.com comes the closest since the DVD set has the episodes in order of how they aired. (I think the Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers set is also in order of airing, but right now available episodes lists seem to prove otherwise.) --From Andoria with Love 14:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

This is what gets to me. I have no real way of knowing for sure which episode aired when. I'd like to believe that, say, "Send in the Clones" was the first episode after the pilot, but certain episode lists outside of Wikipedia list it as Armstrong. I also can't seem to find a proper premiere date for the pilot either. Some people say Sept 11, 1987, others say Sept 18. And TV.com isn't totally reliable. It too is just made up of user submitted information.--Narlee 20:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, Disney's official premiere date for DuckTales is September 18th, while the first regular episode was "Send in the Clones", which aired on September 21st. This info comes from Bill Cotter's book The Wonderful World of Disney Television: A Complete History. To quote the summary from that book (also available at TV.com): "At first, DuckTales was intended as a 1-hour network series. However, when Bob Jacquemin, head of the studio's newly formed syndication unit, learned of the series, he realized that it had the potential to be his first hit. After immense internal lobbying, Jacquemin convinced Michael Einser to let him have DuckTales, and in doing so, he virtually reinvented television animation. One of the first decisions he announced was that Donald Duck would play a minor role in the series, for the emphasis this time was going to be on Uncle Scrooge and his three nephews. To explain Donald's absence, the writers had him enlist in the Navy after leaving his nephews with Scrooge. The studio also created some new additions to the Disney stable. Among these were Launchpad McQuack, Mrs. Beakley, Webbigail (Webby) Vanderquack, Doofus, Duckworth, Fenton Crackshell, and Bubba Duck. DuckTales had a special 2-hour premiere in most markets on September 18, 1987, with the first regular episode airing on September 21. 87 episodes were orginally aired, 100 in total if you count the special episodes: Treasure of the Golden Suns, Time Is Money and Super DuckTales that were later split into 30 minute shows." This means that the DVD releases are, indeed, following order of original airing. The other list appears to be the order in which the episodes were produced ("Armstrong" was the first regular episode made after the pilot), but I have no clue where the so-called "airdates" for this list came from. I highly doubt they completed one episode a day. I have contacted Disney regarding this, but have yet to hear back from them, and since I'm not entirely sure I sent my message to the correct place, I may never hear from them. But I think we should go with the official airdate order given in Cotter's book, which has been correctly listed on TV.com – with the exception of seasons 3 and 4, which are incorrect, according to a veteran user and apparent DuckTales fanatic at TV.com. --From Andoria with Love 04:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

This raises a few questions.

• Does the book actually give a production order of the episodes? Say, first Armstrong, then Luck o' the Ducks, etc...
• Does the other list start with Send in the Clones?
• Where is Treasure of the Golden Suns in the production order? Is it the first five?
• If the DVDs are releasing the episodes in airdate order, why was TotGS excluded from the first Vol?
  

Sorry for all this arguing, but it's impossible to get a solid piece of information regarding order and airdates. But if you think this is bad, Gummi Bears' episode order and airdates are really screwed up.--Narlee 06:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not even gonna touch Gummi Bears, lol! But to answer your question, I believe the book lists the pilot, Treasure of the Golden Suns, as premiering on the 18th and the first regular episode, Send in the Clones, as debuting on the 21st. At present, there is no explanation as to why Disney excluded the pilots from the first volumes of DuckTales and Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers, but given the lack of effort put into the discs, I'd say they just didn't care to put them in and instead skipped right to the regular episodes (they may have been intending to sell the pilot movies seperately – you know, so they can weasel us out of more money). But they seem to have gotten the message since the pilots for Gummi Bears, Darkwing Duck, and TaleSpin are included in volume one of each of those respective DVD sets, as well as volume two of DuckTales and Rescue Rangers. --From Andoria with Love 07:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, the list currently on Wikipedia is in order of production (not "second syndicated run" order as I stated earlier). I'm still trying to figure out where the airdates came from, though. --From Andoria with Love 12:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

That does clear things up a bit. But I don't believe that the order on Wikipedia (Starting with "Armstrong") is the production order. I don't have any real proof, but it's possible that the episodes were orignally aired in the order they were produced. As in, Send in the Clones was the first normal episode to be produced and aired. I'm thinking that for this second "syndicated run" you brought up (the order that's listed right now), the episodes were just shuffled around in random order or something, which happened in many syndicated 80's and 90's cartoons, as there's continuity errors it brings up, such as Goldie appearing in "Till Nephews Do Us Part" before she's introcuded in "Back to the Klondike", or Gyro's Time Tub appearing in "Duck to the Future" before he builds it (re: introducing it to the audience) in "Sir Gyro de Gearloose".--Narlee 14:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, the current list is not in production order, now that I look at it. However, I now have a mailing address for the Walt Disney Company, so I will be writing to them in the near future regarding this. I wanna know which list is correct and where the incorrect list came from. I'll also be asking for original airdates for the other Disney Afternoon series (Gummi Bears, Rescue Rangers, TaleSpin, Darkwing Duck, and Goof Troop), although that might be asking them too much... oh, well, we'll see. :) --From Andoria with Love 20:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm here to save the day and set the record straight. I own a copy of The Ducktales Index by Christopher E. Barat and Joe Torcivia, Launch Pad Publications, 1992 (self-published by the authors). Barat actually assisted with Bill Cotter's Wonderful World of Disney Television book (Cotter gives him special thanks). All of the air dates are included in The DuckTales Index, as well as historical information that clarifies some points of confusion. Also, I avidly watched the series throughout its original run, from beginning to end, and what's in their book corresponds with my memory. Yes, I was very young at the time, but the series had a huge impact on me. It pained me to see how off the information in this list was.

A few points:

1. The air dates in this article were completely wrong. I have fixed them. The first episode following "Golden Suns" is "Send In the Clones", not "Armstrong". (They are in broadcast order on DVD, except "Treasure of the Golden Suns", an unfortunate oversight on Disney's part.)

2. It's come into question if "Time Is Money" and "Super DuckTales" really aired several months earlier than the rest of season two. They in fact did. Season one continued to be reran until fall 1989. In the meantime, "Time Is Money" and "Super DuckTales" premeired as two-hour TV movie specials: "Time Is Money" in November '88, "Super DuckTales" in March '89. The individual half-hour season two episodes began airing in fall '89, when DuckTales joined Rescue Rangers in an hour-long syndicated block (setting the stage for The Disney Afternoon a year later.)

3. This article listed all of the Bubba episodes before all of the Fenton episodes (with fictional air dates to reflect this, to boot!) This is completely erroneous. The Bubba and Fenton episodes originally aired in a random, mix-and-match order.

4. This article overlooked the fact that the series' final 7 episodes did not air until the fall of 1990 (when the series joined The Disney Afternoon), comprising a short third season. This was AFTER DuckTales: The Movie had been released in August 1990. "Ducky Mountain High", "The Duck Who Knew Too Much", and "Scrooge's Last Adventure" were produced for the second season, but held over for broadcast until fall 1990. "Attack of the Metal Mites", "New Gizmo-Kids On the Block", and "The Golden Goose" Parts One and Two were produced explicitly for the third season. This article had the three Dijon episodes ("Metal Mites" and the "Golden Goose" two-parter) airing before Dijon was introduced in DuckTales: The Movie, which is wrong.

5. The production order was wrong (it was actually the broadcast order, excepting "Golden Suns"). I do not know the production order, so I did away with the production number column entirely.

I hope I've helped! I want the article to cite Barat and Torcivia's book as a reference, but I haven't figured out how to integrate it; should it be cited following every single air date? RWynns (talk) 23:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I would. You only need to put the full citation in once, and then just repeat the citation name in your ref tag for every time. Use the {{cite book}} template. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Help needed in Justice League Unlimited

If somebody is interested in Justice League Unlimited, please go to the List of Justice League episodes to help fix that page, meet this one's high quality standarts.Some users refuse to expand info and create article per episodes, even though they know the existence of the wikiproject and well developed pages like the sub-articles here.--T-man, the wise 02:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)--T-man, the wise 02:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Contributions

Although we have a fair amount of episodes pages completed, there are a number of ways that people can help out.

• Co-operate with other contributors. Although this has not been a big issue in the past, if you don't like something that one person has done, talk to them about it.
• If you can provide a screenshot for an episode that doesn't have one, please upload one.
• Writing an episode page.
  • Use the correct episode title for the page name. Refer to the episode's title screen for accuracy.
  • Look at existing DuckTales episode pages for examples and copy the format.
  • Only write a page if you can watch a full episode in the same room as your computer. Do NOT write a page from memory.
  • Notice how each episode (including ones that make up multi-parters) has several paragraphs devoted to the summary, meaning that there's a good amount of text to get out of a twenty-two minute cartoon. You don't need to include every last detail, but this isn't something you should rush either.
  • Wikilink all the main characters, but only for the first time they're mentioned in an episode.
  • Use proper grammar and sentence structure. I'm not asking for Shakesphere here, but try to make it readable.
  • Be sure to include an info-box as well, and a ((Category:DuckTales episode)) tag.
• The (DuckTales episode) qualifier is unecessary in most cases, as a lot of DuckTales episode titles are usually unique enough to not need it. There are some exceptions though:
  • Armstrong (has other meanings)
  • Nothing to Fear (has another meaning)
  • The Status Seeker (shares its name with a Carl Barks story, which could receive its own article in the future)
  • The Golden Fleecing (shares its name with a Carl Barks story)
  • Micro Ducks from Outer Space (shares its name with a Carl Barks story)
  • The Lost Crown of Genghis Khan (shares its name with a Carl Barks story)
  • Back to the Klondike (shares its name with a Carl Barks story)
  • Hero for Hire (has another meaning)
  • Time is Money (is a common term in general)
  • The Golden Goose (has another meaning)
• Magica's Magic Mirror and Take Me Out of the Ballgame are to share the same page at Magica's Magic Mirror / Take Me Out of the Ballgame.
• Currently, I'm doing write-ups of episodes in production order. If you don't want to conflict with me, do an episode that isn't next in line, or let me know that you want to do the next episode in advance, just to be safe. I only have the Vol 1 DVD set, so it would be very helpful if you could write up a page on an episode that isn't on the set if you can. Narlee 03:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Table colors

The background colors used in this table make it hard to read. Any ideas on better colors? - Peregrinefisher 18:11, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I could probably find a lighter shade of blue.--Narlee 21:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

P.S. How about Turqoise #30D5C8 (see List of colors).

I guess I would say the lighter the better, that way the black text stands out more. - Peregrinefisher

I tested out several shades of blue on the episode titles, and Turquise looked the nicest without being too dark, or too pale. Mind you that the top of the tables and the episode summaries would stay the same colors, as they aren't that hard to read.--Narlee 22:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Removing images

The use of images in a decorative gallery is expressly prohibited by our fair use policies. This is not a consensus issue. Please do not revert again. (ESkog)^(Talk) 01:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Your argument is not original and others who have used this rationale were not supported by consensus. Both "gallery" and "decorative" are loaded words with no common meaning. Cburnett 04:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• I found it actually harder to identify the episodes without images. The images from a scene had helped me jog my memory trough each episode and it was easier to understand the summary. WP:FUC #8 says that the images "must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text)." and i think the images do contribute significantly as it helps understand the summary better, and they do identify the subject of the article, and also illustrate key points of each episode. So add the images back. Gman124 16:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Why don't we just add a complete episode video for each season, that should help even more! --Gmaxwell 17:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
• The use of fair use images in the manner in which you desire is not supported in policy. This has been argued endlessly, with never a resolution supporting such use. --Durin 17:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
  • you do know that Television is a visual medium, and picture would best identify an episode. Gman124 17:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Yet animal species are a very visual thing as well, and our list of species articles don't have one image per item even when we already have free images for all of them. --Gmaxwell 17:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

would you state the points on which you removed the images. Gman124 17:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• I think the supporters of these images are missing the critical point; "must contribute significantly". Having an image from an episode on the episode's article does nothing to significantly contribute to the article if the article does nothing to discuss the image. It's like talking about Mt. Everest while having an image of Mt. Blanc on the article. It's meaningless; no context. --Durin 17:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Episode notability

All of the episodes of this series fail the notability guidelines for television episodes. The way for these articles to be improved is through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. That is unlikely to happen, and these only contain overly long plot summaries, trivia, and quotes. Per that, they need to be a small part of this list. If there are no objections, these will be redirected soon. TTN 23:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I also want to point people to the oringal discussion. TheBlazikenMaster 06:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I object. Please use the Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review process. - Peregrine Fisher 05:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Is there any reason why you seem to be going around and objecting to everything User:TTN does? Seems to be more of a WP:POINT you're trying to make here. -WarthogDemon 05:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Peregrine. DuckTales was very much a notable series; its episodes deserve to have their own articles.--74.167.107.134 (talk) 03:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

No objections here. Redirect away. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• Can we PLEASE speak about this on the oringal discussion? TheBlazikenMaster 11:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

A DuckTales Valentine

This episode was deleted from the page for a few days. Then, it was put back, but the airdate was changed to November 20, 1989, a couple days after "The Masked Mallard". Why? Where did that date came from? Did someone just make it up? (The way this page used to have a bunch of made up dates placing all of the Bubba episodes before all of the Fenton episodes ...) "A DuckTales Valentine" first aired, logically, the week of Valentine's Day, as a prime time special on The Magical World of Disney. It actually probably wasn't even produced until later than the rest of the second season - the DuckTales second season episode guide in Gladstone's DuckTales comic didn't list it. (And left viewers wondering until the fall of 1990 where on earth "Ducky Mountain High", "The Duck Who Knew Too Much", and "Scrooge's Last Adventure" were.) It's coralled with the second season because its original airing still fell within the fall 1989 - summer 1990 television season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.59.251 (talk) 22:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

New Adjustments

Someone came along and changed some of the Season One air dates, deciding that the sixty episodes following "Treasure of the Golden Suns" first ran in one straight shot. They didn't. Mostly, yes, but the last few were stragglers. I'm not sure why - I don't know if it's because the production schedule was behind, or if Disney wanted to stretch new episodes out until New Year's Day, 1988 (when the season finale, "'Til Nephews Do Us Part", aired).

This person failed to realize that the serialized version of "Treasure of the Golden Suns" is actually what aired from November 9-13, 1987, and so bumped episodes 41-45 up to that span of time, so that the chart showed them (and subsequent episodes) airing a week earlier than they actually did.

Because of this, I've changed the charts so that they differentiate between the TV movie versions and the serialized versions of "Treasure of the Golden Suns", "Time Is Money", and "Super DuckTales". However, the episode numbers are still determined by when the TV movie versions first aired, not the serialized versions.

Anyway, I've reverted everything to the correct dates - as documented in The DuckTales Index by Christopher E. Barat and Joe Torcivia and The Wonderful World of Disney Television by Bill Cotter.

I also took the opportunity to do something I've been thinking about for a while: differentiating what aired during the 1988-89 television season ("Time Is Money" and "Super DuckTales") as Season 2 and what aired during the 1989-90 teleivsion season (the following 21 episodes) as Season 3, when previously, I'd collectively had them grouped as Season 2. Production-wise, "Time Is Money" and "Super DuckTales" do seem part of the same season as the rest of the Bubba-Fenton era, but it only seems right to relent and consider what span of time ("fall to summer" being a traditional year/season of teleivsion) the episodes actually first aired in. It's iffy with this series how to distinguish individual seasons after the first 65 episodes. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RWynns (talk • contribs) 00:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent job! BTW, your research has helped me fix the airdates on the Internet Movie Database. I wish I could find such concrete information in my research on other shows.--71.142.217.218 (talk) 16:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Although your comment's almost a year old, I'm grateful that you set things right at IMDB! Was just looking at the airdates that the Big Cartoon Database has (that's what's prompted me to post this note), and they're incorrect. I'll see if I can get a hold of them... RWynns (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Difference between TV movie version and SERIALIZED version; air dates

A couple times, someone has changed the air date for each of the individual installments of the serialized version of "Treasure of the Golden Suns" to 9/18/87, the earliest known date that the TV movie version aired. I've always made it a point to correct the change. The most reverting stood for quite a while, though, and I finally took a few seconds, just now, to correct it.

The distinction between the two versions is important. Scenes were cut for time from the TV movie version, and there were some strange editing and dialogue variations. In spite of the discrepancies, we're essentially talking about different edits of the same five episodes. Since the episode list is chronological by air dates, then "Treasure of the Golden Suns" is designated as Episodes 1 through 5, since the TV movie version aired earlier than any other episode. Had there never been a TV movie version, and the serialized version still first aired from 11/9 to 11/13, then "Send in the Clones" would be Episode 1, and so forth, and "Treasure of the Golden Suns" would be Episodes 36 through 40 (in spite of the consequential continuity anomaly). For clarity and thoroughness, it's important to distinguish between the TV movie version and the serialized version. The same is done for "Time Is Money" and "Super DuckTales". — Preceding unsigned comment added by RWynns (talk • contribs) 05:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

"multiple issues"

Someone (whose acccount appears to no longer exist) tagged the article so as to raise various objections. Some of them are beyond reasonable -- like including sources, which I've put off for WAY too long, and thus, I'm planning on sitting down later tonight and finally integrating citations into the article. (In particular, for all of the air dates.) I'm willing to shorten the introduction, but I'm not sure in what way the article sounds like it's "written from a fan's perspective" or why it might need copy editing. Any specific suggestions/criticisms are welcome. RWynns (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

I was the one who tagged this article with issues; the whole article may look factual, but the material cannot hold on its own without variable sources.
I did not mean to tag "fansite"/"fancruft" and "copyedit". I'll replace "fansite" and "copyedit" into "unencyclopedic"; otherwise, I'll remove both of them right away.
I will also add {{third-party}}, not part of "Multiple issues" yet. --Gh87 (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I have a source for a great deal of the information in the article; just have never set aside the time to integrate the citations. I will rectify that tonight, and will omit anything that I can't attribute. RWynns (talk) 22:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Just an update: obviously, didn't get as far as I wanted to tonight. I have a copy of The DuckTales Index, my source for the air dates, as well as various other facts -- with that book, I'll be able to cite much currently in the article. In addition (and this is what kept me from touching the article again 'til now), I've spent the past few hours combing through TV listings in online newspaper archives, so that I'll be able to cite the air dates of the two-hour TV movie specials twice over. I've found a couple articles confirming that The Disney Afternoon started in 1990 and that DuckTales joined it at that point, and a couple other articles alludng to the fact that DuckTales and Rescue Rangers were syndicated together from 1989-90. Wnat to see if I can find a bit more supporting these points, though -- that's the biggest setback right now. Hopefully, I'll have overhauled the article by late tomorrow night. Thanks for your patience. RWynns (talk) 08:11, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

editing conflict

I've revised the page to address the issues that the article was tagged with, but someone keeps trying to revert the article to the previous version. I'm not sure why, as the newer version cites all of the air dates and various other details of the series' broadcast history, and so is a major improvement, as far as making the article encyclopedic. The introduction being too long was one of the issues the article was tagged with, which is why it's now so minimal -- the information about each season was repeated at the start of each table anyway (and can be still be found there), and a general introduction to the series (like the former first paragraph) is not necessary, as this is only an episode list, and would be more appropriate to the general article about the series. Also, placing DuckTales: The Movie between the 1989-90 season and the 1990-91 season (when the film was released, in the summer in between) was based on the X-Files episode list. Unless someone can provide a really compelling reason for keeping the old version, I'd appreciate not changing it back, especially given that citations are now included. Thanks. RWynns (talk) 19:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Airdates

• "Scrooge's Last Adventure" is listed for November 17, 1990, but that day was a Saturday. What is the actual date? --Meadyforzbs (talk) 20:45, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Excellent question -- I've noticed this discrepancy. That's what's cited in The DuckTales Index. I didn't want to bother Barat about it -- 20+ years later, it's not likely that he or anyone would be able to say (for example), "Oh, that was Friday last week ... I wrote down the 17th when I should've wrote the 16th", even if he does have his original notes. But I could ask him. But even if he's able to correct, there'd be the problem of having a source to cite that meets Wikipedia guidelines (i.e., not a personal e-mail). --RWynns (talk) 09:50, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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