Talk:List of ETA attacks
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"a Basque baby"
editDoes anyone have a citation for this? First edit from this IP address, no summary or citation. - Jmabel | Talk 21:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- there is no citation and it contradicts what is said on the sentence below which states that it was the first deadly attack, i feel that without citation we should delete the dead baby sentence.--Joebengo 06:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Problem with this article
editIs this an exhaustive list of ETA attacks (in 2006-2007 every single incident is included) or a list of most important attacks? A choice should be made otherwise the list may be misleading.--Burgas00 21:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I have started editing the latest ETA strikes from late 07 onwards. I have edited some older ones, but usually get it updated pretty quickly after it happens (24 hours) and no one seems to update. So as per my update it's updated till 2008. I even updated the tally at the top from after 2003. Lihaas (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Exhaustive listing of ETA assasinations
editFor an exhaustive lisint of ETA terrorist attacks and assasinations (victim names, dates, political sign of government in office, etc.) check http://especiales.abc.es/2006/eta/index.html (in Spanish, but arab numeration is international)
tally
editi was thinking about a proposal to add the annual tally on the section headings. It would be a good idea for research purposes as one can analyze the group's ups and down and when it was most potent (as 2008 is showing) Lihaas (talk) 10:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
details
editmore are available on the spanish page http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Asesinatos_cometidos_por_ETA_entre_1968_y_1975 59.183.241.174 (talk) 05:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Destroyer Marques de la Ensada?
editIt should be Marqués de la Ensenada. This vessel was named after a famous Spaniard 18th-century minister for the Navy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:26, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
ETA's first victim?
editDespite the popular delusion in current Spain, the baby girl Begoña Urroz was killed by mistake by the DRIL, unless you want to nonsensically blame ETA for all the bombs concealed by the DRIL at Madrid, Barcelona, San Sebastian and Bilbao rail stations and on the express train Madrid-Barcelona from 26 to 29 June 1960 . Facts, not fairy tales. At least 2 DRIL members (including a leader: José Fernández Vázquez under the nickname Jorge de Sotomayor) owned up decades ago that one of their explosive devices killed a baby girl in the summer of 1960. In Spain there are only 2 experts on the DRIL: Xurxo Martínez and Xavier Montanyà. Both of them have no doubt: the DRIL was behind the bombing at Amara station in San sebastián on 27June 1960. O.K., both of them are leftist and Nationalist (Galician the former and Catalan the latter), but their authority on the matter is beyond doubt. The last but not the least: Begoña Urroz has never been included as an actual ETA victim on the official list issued by the Spanish Home Ministry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:54, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Le Monde: Madrid, 29 Juin (united Press International)_Pour la police espagnole les attentats à la bombe qui ont eu lieu dimanche et lundi dans les gares de Barcelone, madrid et de San-Sebastian sont l'ouvre d'un réseau baptisé DRIL (Directoire révolutionaire ibérique de libération) [...]
- "http://www.vilaweb.cat/noticia/3853900/20110202/manipulant-primera-victima-deta.html" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 12:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Le Monde: Madrid, 29 Juin (united Press International)_Pour la police espagnole les attentats à la bombe qui ont eu lieu dimanche et lundi dans les gares de Barcelone, madrid et de San-Sebastian sont l'ouvre d'un réseau baptisé DRIL (Directoire révolutionaire ibérique de libération) [...]
The list of 829 victims (people killed by different ETAs, Comandos Autónomos and Iraultza)
editIt's the most rigorous list, perhaps too much, but not devoid would-be mistakes: cabman Germán Aguirre in 1975 (unsolved), cabman Martín Merquelanz in 1978 (killing claimed by the far-right Batallón Vasco Español, and ETA denied all responsibility), customs agent J.M. Echeveste in 1980 (unsolved... ETA for the Home Ministry, far-right Triple A for the Basque Parliament), Eduardo Moreno Bergareche Pertur from ETA político-militar in 1976 (unsolved, claimed by Triple A, no one blamed ETA before 1978), Naparra from the Comandos autónomos Anticapitalistas in the early 1980s (same as Pertur), postman José Antonio Cardosa in 1989 (killed by a bomb-letter, dirty war, no doubt about it). There's a group of victims that more likely were killed by ETA -at least I think so- , but those cases are in fact unsolved or partially unsolved for the time being: 3 young Galicians vanished in the French Basque Country in 1973, and to a lesser extent Ibarguchi and the Martínez Castañares Brothers in 1981, raked by gunfire in their car (ETA denied all responsibility, but I don't believe it)(well, there's a proof: a local policemen from Tolosa was sent to jail under the charge of having passed on information to an ETA commando, who took Ibarguchi and his mates for members of the Spanish Police). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- ATTENTION PLEASE : I made a mistake. Although this list includes on purpose some non-ETA victims (like José Antonio Cardosa, 1989, dirty war), there is a problem with this unofficial list of ETA 829 victims issued by the Spanish authorities: people killed by the Anarchist-like CAA (Comandos Autónomos Anticapitalistas=Anti-Capitalist Autonomous Commandoes) are not on the list. For instance the Socialist Senator Enrique Casas, Telefónica manager Enrique Cuesta (Telefónica is like British Telecom in the UK) and Moulinex manager Mr. Latiegui. Other lists , on the contrary, include people killed by the CAA (over 20 victims). That account for the discrepancies. For instance 857 victims according to the book "Vidas rotas" (although "Vidas rotas" in general terms is reliable stuff, 857 victims -858 with French constable Jean-Serge Nérin- is a little overestimation, and the page on Begoña Urroz as the "first ETA-victim" is nothing but Goebbels-like propagandistic brainless rubbish)
- "http://elperiodico.com/es/lista-victimas-ETA.shtml" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Piecemeal...
editJuly 28. 1979: 3 bombs in Barajas Airport and Atocha and Chamartin train stations, killing 7 people and injured a further 100. The attacks came after attacks in Bilbao and San Sebastian had killed 4 people".
- 1)Those bombings were carried out and claimed by ETA political-military.
- 2)So far as I know, there were 5 or 6 fatalities, not 7.
- 3)The bombing in Bilbao some days earlier, with 3 fatalities (including 2 gipsy teenagers) was claimed by the Triple A (far-right terrorism). The target was a nursery owned by an Herri Batasuna elderman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 12:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- P.D:_I made a mistake. Some days earlier ETA killed in Bilbao 2 forcemen (from Policía Nacional). The Triple A bombing was in 1980. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.130.137.249 (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- Another mistake: there were 7 fatalities (J. A. Amaya, A. Pastor, J.E. Pérez Palma, J. Luna, D. Fertz or Fertig, G. Redondo, D. Rey, and J.M. Boix). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.130.137.249 (talk) 19:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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Pardines
editAccording to Spanish Wikipedia, Pardines did not die in a gunfight but from a bullet in the neck.
Fire at Hotel Corona de Aragon was an accident
editETA never took responsability and government itself claims it was an accident, claiming otherwise is a conspiracy theory The basque savior (talk) 11:11, 27 July 2023 (UTC)