Talk:List of EastEnders characters introduced in 2008
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Donna
editDonna appeared on 24 Jan, played by Melanie Cameron, she was one of the wedding competition entrants. I can't really remember what she did so I haven't added her, but her fiancé's name was Paul and she was meant to be a Victoria Beckham lookalike. Feel free to add if you feel she is worthy. anemone│projectors 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's cool. I can never decide whether to put characters in "others" or their own section! anemone
│projectors 23:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's cool. I can never decide whether to put characters in "others" or their own section! anemone
Images
editAre we not sticking to the 5 a page on a list rule anymore? Not that I mind, it's just that it may be a waste of time to uplaod a new image for every character. If they see we have too many, they will come along and delete them all. Lost count of the number of times it happened on all the other lists.Gungadin 22:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- They can fuck off. If they delete them, at least admins will still be able to see them, so they won't be lost forever. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 23:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- There's no point if only admins can see them. We should try to stick to having images for just the most important minor characters, and delete one when a more important character comes along. I thought it was 6, though. anemone
│projectors 23:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- There's no point if only admins can see them. We should try to stick to having images for just the most important minor characters, and delete one when a more important character comes along. I thought it was 6, though. anemone
Sources
editCatherine Bailey
editThe actress Catherine Bailey appeared in EE in April-May 2007 as PC Blake, then in May 2008 as PC Gardner. Shall we assume this is the same character and she's got married, or list her as a new character? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 00:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- I dunno, isnt the whole point of wiki that we're not supposed to assume anything? Seems weird that they would bother marrying off such a minor character who no one would remember anyway. I think just list her as a new character until something suggests otherwise.Gungadin 12:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Amy Slater
editI know the episode she was born was aired on November 17th but shouldn't her date of birth be November 14th as Children in Need stuff is aslo going on in the episode. Therefore, Date of Birth = November 14th while First Appearance = November 17th. Or am I just talking rubbish? Cutekitten05 (talk) 21:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
The father of Amy is currently still unknown,and has neither been revealed as Sean OR Jack.People assume it is Jack as this is Eastenders,but the press and soap magazines have not hinted who it is yet.So until that time could people please stop editing the page and stating that Jack is her dad.Thanks!Mobilefanxxx{[[Usertalk:Mobilefanxxx]}15:26,6 December 2008(UTC)
Dotty Cotton
editDotty now has her own profile page on the offical website. Maybe she should have her own page now instead of being inlcuded as a minor characterAmmera (talk) 00:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Her storylines were very a big one and my first thought is thats eh should eb split off but the second thoughts is that wikipedia likes to have refs and she dosent have hardly any so i think no (unless you cna find some)--MayhemMario (talk) 09:16, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- You know you're replying to something over two years old don't you? Dotty was split and remerged several times. We won't be splitting her again. –AnemoneProjectors– 09:28, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
oh okay =) and no i dint =) --MayhemMario (talk) 13:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Amy Mitchell
editI wasn't around at the time so can someone tell me how we know the names of the babies playing Amy? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- I have no idea! Maybe Trampikey knows.GunGagdinMoan 19:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe Google knows! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Louise Hills
editIn last night's episode, was DS Hills in court or on the video with Whitney? I couldn't really tell because I'm watching through analogue at the moment and my picture is a bit fuzzy! But I assumed it was the video. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Dotty's Exit
editis dotty leaving eastenders with her mum sandy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.152.113 (talk) 22:41, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- All that we know is "Sandy reveals to Kirsty that she wants her to return home with her. With that, an emotional Dot finds herself saying goodbye to her own granddaughter." But nothing has said that she's leaving. It could be a goodbye that turns out to be an unnecessary one. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Jordan Johnson
editNow that Jordan has become more of a main character in the soap and is having a more central role, should he have his own article and would anyone like me to create it? AcidBrights (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Its really a question of whether enough sources can be found to create the article Bleaney (talk) 21:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- We have zero real-world information about the character, so no, not now anyway. Even some real-world information isn't really enough, we need to add sources to these lists. AnemoneProjectors 22:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Images (2)
editYou nkow the image of Jordan please may we delet it as it is a bit stupid.--MayhemMario (talk) 12:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a free image of the actor as we can't use non-free images in lists. I don't see any reason to remove it. –AnemoneProjectors– 13:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
it jsuts wierd having a non-important charcter such as opal smith having a photo when people like, bobby beale,kim fox and michael moon not having one.--MayhemMario (talk) 20:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Because we can't use non-free images in lists. There aren't any free images of Tameka Empson etc available (yet). –AnemoneProjectors– 21:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Anyway, Kim will be split off soon and I have an image ready so Kim doesn't need a free image. --GSorby Chat with Me! 21:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- She'll be split off when she's ready, not necessarily soon! And free images are good for all articles. –AnemoneProjectors– 22:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh you know what I mean :P --GSorby Chat with Me! 01:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- She'll be split off when she's ready, not necessarily soon! And free images are good for all articles. –AnemoneProjectors– 22:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Anyway, Kim will be split off soon and I have an image ready so Kim doesn't need a free image. --GSorby Chat with Me! 21:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Doing some edits...
editAs maybe some of you have noticed i have been doing quite a lot of linking,references and changign grammar to this article. I am going to move some of the (less) important characters to 'others' such as say Waseem. Does anyone;
- Have any objections to me editing this article?
- Have any objections to people who should be added to 'Others'
MayhemMario (talk) 16:34, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- I was planning to go through all the lists at some point and move lots of them to "others", as well as generally cleaning them up. The fact that you've been editing this article has a) helped and b) made me make further clean ups at a time when I wasn't entirely ready to. So I have no objections. Adding references for episode dates is good. It's a shame BBC Programmes didn't list minor characters in 2008. Characters who I would consider moving to "others" are Alice Grayling, Alan Daniels, Wendy Simmons and Wendy Hewson (can go together), Vicky Buchanan, Helen Hughes, Shannon Jacobs, Waseem, Camilla Greenwood, Cynthia Marshall, Alistair Childs, Carrie Dunlop, Adam Smith and Samantha Keeble. Is that too many? –AnemoneProjectors– 17:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Ah I see you've already moved some. As the references you added only confirm the date and not the actor, could you place them in the date column instead of the actor column? –AnemoneProjectors– 17:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Something's gone wrong. The names and dates have switched around halfway down the others table? :/ GSσяву Chat with Me! 18:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, Mario is partway through changing the table format to match the 2010/11/WP:ACCESS format. I presume he will finish this off. I would suggest for now if it's being left unfinished, putting the lower half in a separate table. –AnemoneProjectors– 18:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Something's gone wrong. The names and dates have switched around halfway down the others table? :/ GSσяву Chat with Me! 18:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- I finished changing the table for ohthers just got to add the main charcetrs to others =)--MayhemMario (talk) 11:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Right hopefully as you can see every MAIN character has refs now (some more than others) to eb honest i shocked myself when i find out that Lee Thompson has all that Reception! I was quite shocked that no one else had put it in there before! Anyway they've all got refs,main paragraph at start is like one on 2010 Characters and just need to do a few more things, i you can think of any more than the one's i write down feel free to add!--MayhemMario (talk) 17:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
TO DO
edit- get refs for others for the dates
DONE
edit- Find refs for ALL main characters
- Move less important ones to Others
- Re dress the whole of Others making it according to 2010 and 2011 characters
- Started to sort out of infoboxes to make sure they are in correct order according to 2011 characters.
- Write main chunk of writing at top
- Add/change links which were wrong and fix old refs
- Make sure leaving/arrivign dates were correct, some werent.
- Did you change any dates? How did you do it? They were all added at time of broadcast so it's highly unlikely any of them were wrong. –AnemoneProjectors– 19:01, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sort out of infoboxes to makes sure they are in correct order accroding to 2011 characters.
- Propose the move of Ali Imazan and merge it was Jamila Imazan so they are one- both ahve exact same storylines so why not? We did it for Wendy Hewson and Wendy Simmons.
- Add little description under main characters such as Christian,Tiffany,Whitney, Lucas, Archie, Danielle and Tony.
Hi, just want to ask if we can move Ashley Jennings into others. He has very little stroylines but the only thing stopping him from being moved is the ref for Soaplife with is 'vague'. Can we transfer it to the others box? I'll do it but any objections just say. MayhemMario (talk) 15:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- I guess I objected. I think anyone who has any OOU sources shouldn't be in "others". –AnemoneProjectors– 18:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Just looking....
editmorgans name has been changed to butcher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.229.121 (talk) 15:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
- This has been mentioned on another talk page. His name may have changed in the credits but it doesn't reflect storylines at all. His name doesn't change unless his parents get it changed by deed poll, and as they're both absent, the changes of that are highly slim. –AnemoneProjectors– 14:33, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
well it says on the eastenders website that his name has been changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.229.121 (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
- It calls him Morgan Butcher on his profile, but that's all. –AnemoneProjectors– 13:53, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Mr Lister's most recent appearance
editDoes anyone know the date that Mr Lister last appeared in EE? His Last date in the infobox (hidden as he's a present-recurring character) says 3 June 2011, but his storyline sections say he appeared in November (and I remember he did). Does anyone know the specific date? Bleaney (talk) 23:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, he appeared in the episode dated 15 November 2011. GSorby – Ping 09:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Joey the kitten
editTiffany and Morgan adopt a baby kitten, does it count as a character?--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 18:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- No. And why are you asking on the 2008 character's talk page? –AnemoneProjectors– 12:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- *head-desk* sorry should have asked at current/new characters, what about with Wellard was he considered a character if so why not Joey?--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 12:40, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- We only have three of the pets down as characters, and those are the ones with notability (Wellard, Roly and Willy). All other pets are not notable so we have not mentioned them in any character list. If we were to do this, we would have to discuss it as a project, at WP:EE. –AnemoneProjectors– 12:58, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- I see fair enough, at least you were polite enough to explain why anemone.--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 13:15, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- It might be worth a discussion. I have a page in my userspace User:AnemoneProjectors/List of pets in EastEnders that could possibly be beefed up with text and references, and we could have that. Or we could discuss putting some of the pets into the existing yearly lists, but I don't think that would go down very well. –AnemoneProjectors– 13:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- I've just read your article, it looks very nice! If we expand it a bit it could make a nice article--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 13:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Morgan's Surname
editAnyone for changing his surname to Butcher altogether? Highly doubt anybody refers to him as Jackson-King anymore. George Sorby 21:05, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be tempted to do a google search and see how many hits each Surname gets... Bleaney (talk) 22:08, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well searching for Morgan Jackson-King comes back with over 72 million results whereas Butcher comes back with 10 million. But with the EastEnders prefix on the end, it comes to Jackson King = about 400,000 and Butcher = 1,500,000. George Sorby 22:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- 72 million? Did you search with quotes around his name, i.e. "Morgan Jackson-King"? If not, Google will search for any pages containing Morgan, Jackson OR King! Worth noting the BBC character profile lists him as Butcher: [1] Stephenb (Talk) 06:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have searched, with quotes around his name, adding the word "EastEnders" just to make them more relevant (in case there are people with those names in real life), and got 357,000 for Jackson-King and 2,700 for Butcher. Removing "EastEnders" gives more results, but Jackson-King still has many more. This could include references to Wikipedia, though. Using Google News doesn't improve things. He's been in the show for 5 years - does anyone know when his name was changed to Butcher? –AnemoneProjectors– 15:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- Morgan's name was changed between September and December 2011. George Sorby 16:10, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- According to these figures i'd be tempted to keep the Surname as Jackson-King for now. He's been known as that for longer on the show (just) and at the moment Google seems to still favour Jackson-King. I think this is one we should monitor regularly though as i'm sure things could change soon. Bleaney (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- I agree Bleaney. As the character (and actor) gets older, and is involved in more storylines, Butcher could well overtake Jackson-King, but not yet. –AnemoneProjectors– 16:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- According to these figures i'd be tempted to keep the Surname as Jackson-King for now. He's been known as that for longer on the show (just) and at the moment Google seems to still favour Jackson-King. I think this is one we should monitor regularly though as i'm sure things could change soon. Bleaney (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- Morgan's name was changed between September and December 2011. George Sorby 16:10, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have searched, with quotes around his name, adding the word "EastEnders" just to make them more relevant (in case there are people with those names in real life), and got 357,000 for Jackson-King and 2,700 for Butcher. Removing "EastEnders" gives more results, but Jackson-King still has many more. This could include references to Wikipedia, though. Using Google News doesn't improve things. He's been in the show for 5 years - does anyone know when his name was changed to Butcher? –AnemoneProjectors– 15:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- 72 million? Did you search with quotes around his name, i.e. "Morgan Jackson-King"? If not, Google will search for any pages containing Morgan, Jackson OR King! Worth noting the BBC character profile lists him as Butcher: [1] Stephenb (Talk) 06:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well searching for Morgan Jackson-King comes back with over 72 million results whereas Butcher comes back with 10 million. But with the EastEnders prefix on the end, it comes to Jackson King = about 400,000 and Butcher = 1,500,000. George Sorby 22:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Samantha Keeble
editI added a source to this section of the page. It has been deleted twice. Isn't that vandalism. Shouldn't the person doing the deleting be warned about their conduct and if they carry on doing it be blocked from editing?82.47.191.23 (talk) 12:00, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
This is the source in question [2] that I keep trying to add, which keeps getting deleted by a troll.82.47.191.23 (talk) 17:50, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
The source has been deleted again. Somebody is vandalizing the page. They need to be blocked from editing.82.47.191.23 (talk) 21:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
The source has been deleted again. There is a troll active on this page. They need to be blocked from editing. They are deleting a valid source for no apparent reason.82.47.191.23 (talk) 23:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Waseem
editAnyone know when Waseem's last appearance was? anemoneprojectors 12:12, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Simon Ackroyd
editI though Simon Ackroyd went to the Nativity where he met Roxy not the Christmas Carol production. Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 21:00, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Someone clearly wasn't paying attention. He introduced himself as "Simon Ackroyd" at the church. He works at the school, hence he was involved in the school's Nativity. anemoneprojectors 21:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Amy's relations
editAs per this Wikia only relations that have had significant interaction with the person in question/are involved in the same storyline can be added to their family template box. However, earlier today I added several characters that I believe have had significant interaction with Amy Mitchell but they have been removed. First off, Suzy Branning (Amy's aunt) was the one who initially exposed Amy's true parentage in a storyline shortly after her birth - if this isn't significant then I don't know what is. Next, I'm extremely confused as to why Phil, Grant, Sam and Ben aren't included in her family list as they have been an extremely close knitted family with Roxy and Ronnie in recent years (Phil, Ben and Lola especially) - a quick search of "Phil and Amy Mitchell" online will actually show pictures of the two interacting, with another picture showing Sam and Amy interacting as she introduces Amy to her half-brother Ricky from 2016. Lola is another person I don't understand hasn't been included as she always used to babysit Amy, along with her own daughter Lexi - wasn't it Lola that was babysitting when Carl White snatched Amy? Then there is Will Mitchell who's dad and sister are included on the list, despite him forever being looked after by Ingrid along with Amy and Ricky (even when Janet was ran over he stayed with Jack and Amy). The others; Courtney Mitchell, Louise Mitchell, Mark Fowler, etc I added simply due to them sharing the Peggy death plot. Connorguy99 (talk) 00:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
editThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of EastEnders characters (1985) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 20:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)