Talk:List of Game of the Year awards

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Blitz4 in topic New goty source material

Helpful Link(??)

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This seems like it might apparently be a helpful link, but whoever suggested it was incredibly insistent on getting the message that had it removed, so I'm just gonna leave it again here so it can be used in the future:

GOTYPICKS.BLOGSPOT.COM

I looked into it and it appears to have a few helpful directions towards GOTY sources, so it might be worth turning to at some point or another.TheDisneyGamer (talk) 02:15, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

This link is not suitable for use directly on Wikipedia, as a user generated self-published source. However, it's fine for an editor to use it to find and then use actual reliable sources such as IGN, GameSpot, etc, etc. -- ferret (talk) 18:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
I understand that, and I understand why you rejected the person’s suggestion. From what I can tell this is a compilation of links to GOTY award pages (reliable ones), so I meant that it could maybe be used to find other sources which could be used as references.TheDisneyGamer (talk) 21:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Czech Game of the Year Awards

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Do you think we should keep the "Czech Game of the Year Awards" section? It's not really a notable award ceremony and most of the winners are early access games. Neverrainy (talk) 18:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

As the awards themselves seem to currently be notable (I.e. an article exists), we should include for now. I have not checked the sourcing at Czech Game of the Year Awards in-depth. I would settle that question first (Should it go to AFD?) before removing from here. -- ferret (talk) 18:40, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Archive of old awards

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Some of the awards listed here are very old and have stopped awarding (e.g., Electronic Games, GameFan). To make the article easier to review, would it make sense to create an archive category and lump those awards into the archive section? Starkawa (talk) 15:20, 26 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

The size is getting a little large, but with how slowly the list grows (A dozen or two entries a year at max), we can probably wait a while being reorganizing. The TOC is still fairly usable. -- ferret (talk) 01:31, 28 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
Great point. I've categorized them into active and inactive and maintain the full TOC of every source so it's still easy to see all awards. By parsing out active awards it will be easier to ensure all active ones are updated, and add new ones if not already included in active categories. Starkawa (talk) 18:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
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Cleanup

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This list needs a major cleanup, removing any WP:USERG sites that we wouldn't use in articles. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Dissident93: From a cursory look at the recent changes, you seem to have removed all awards handed out by publications and kept the ones voted on by juries, guilds or some such. Was that the criteria you applied? Or was it something else? I'd think it'd have been a better idea to remove only the defunct awards. Awards given by notable publications probably should've been retained on this page or spun off into a separate article. What's your opinion on this? 103.77.137.87 (talk) 21:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • It was something a few others discussed a while back, at least in terms of including them in tables in each game's specific article. However, thinking more about this, I think they can return, but separated from the jury-based ones into their own section. I was never arguing that the awards or publications themselves were not notable, just that they were not on the same level as actual award events. EDIT: I reintroduced the active editor ones, omitting the inactive and fan voted ones. I'm not 100% against re-adding the inactive awards, but I'm sure how much a magazine from the 1980s with only 5 winners before they stopped doing them really helps, plus they bloat the list. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 00:44, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • I am concerned about so much removal, and im relieved you brought back a big part of it. People have put a lot of work into contributing to this list. it is nice you first started a discussion in this talk page, but not getting responses may not be the same as the community aquiescing to it, altough it is undertandable if you interpreted that way. rather than so much deletion, it is more constructive to re-arrange as you later did. i would encourage you to add back everything you deleted. and, if the page really feels bloated, maybe you can propose and work towards a split (jury vs non jury?). that i reckon would be more constructive and respectful of everyone's contributions. thank you.Al83tito (talk) 03:33, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
      • As for defunct awards/publications, there are several quite notable publications of early gaming that are now defunct; i dont see why that makes them less respectable and less worthy of inclusion. notability is not based on that. losing those from the list would result in an important loss of information on early gaming history. again, if the list is too large, it can be spli. some split criteria, among others, could be: active vs nonactive publications; judge panel vs other awarding process; chronological (one decade per article; etc. thank you.Al83tito (talk) 03:39, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
        • My issue isn't with notability, it's with the list being too large (we don't need to include every publication). I suppose an award vs publication split may work, but I'd like to get more opinions on that first. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 04:34, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
          • Selection of which publications to restore seems arbitrary. For example, GameRevolution was selected for deletion and it's possibly the oldest active gaming website, while Hardcore Gamer, a smaller site almost 15 years its junior was kept. Not sure why it's an issue if the list is too large. This is a valuable resource, especially for info on sites that have gone offline or have poor organization. If formatting is an issue, maybe a split between Game of the Year Awards given at events and those given by publications would be best. Newagenoir (talk) 21:05, 3 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
            I already did the split, unless you mean as two separate articles? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:30, 3 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

2004 GOTY Platform mistake

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Game of the year 2004 (Half-Life 2) Was released for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, the original Xbox, Mac OS and Linux, as well as Windows

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2#Ports_and_updates 81.174.255.67 (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: It was only on Windows in 2004 when it was originally awarded GOTY. Xbox, etc, didn't release till 2005 and later. -- ferret (talk) 20:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
nice 122.161.74.246 (talk) 08:16, 25 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2020

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2015 game of the year was not fall out 4 it was witcher 3 wild hunt

2015 game of the year was not fall out 4 it was witcher 3 wild hunt 92.30.178.244 (talk) 22:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talkcontribs) 23:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Add a compilation table

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It would be interesting to see a compilation table with one row per year, and all games awarded in that year, in all events and publications. I try to lookup if there was an automated way to do that, but haven't found any. But I can build a script to generate it automatically from the data currently in the page, if this would be accepted. Felipou (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Note: {{edit semi-protected}} is only for requesting specific changes. In this case, this would mean having already made the table, then requesting it be added to the article.
As for the idea in general, I'd say it should only be done if the combined table can be dynamically generated from the existing tables so that you don't always need to update the same information in two different places, otherwise you'd inevitably run into issues with conflicting information at some point. Rummskartoffel (talk) 21:06, 4 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Now that you point this out, I see that this is already a problem as some of these awards have a specific page for them. Is there a way to create a database table of some sort, and just generate these pages/tables from there? Something like single source of data for multiple pages. Felipou (talk) 15:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Felipou, Wikidata? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Giant Bomb game of the year 2020

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is Hades. https://www.giantbomb.com/shows/game-of-the-year-2020-day-five/2970-20912— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.115.11.101 (talk) 19:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Famitsu

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The 2020 entry in the Famitsu section is incorrect. Animal Crossing: New Horizons won the main, fan-voted, Famitsu GOTY: https://www.siliconera.com/animal-crossing-new-horizons-won-famitsu-dengeki-game-awards-2020/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

Ghost of Tsushima won the "Super Trendy" award last year, voted on by developers and Japanese celebrities, which is a different type of the award. https://www.resetera.com/threads/famitsu-ghost-of-tsushima-voted-top-in-the-super-trendy-game-awards-2020-by-132-japanese-game-creators-and-personalities.348673/

The other winners listed in the table in the Famitsu section of the article are the fan-voted award winners, not the Super Trendy award winners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenaicat (talkcontribs) 00:38, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

In that case nether award really qualifies, since "Super Trendy" is just another type of award and not specifically for game of the year. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
The Golden Joystick Awards are also reader-voted awards. So how are the Famitsu Awards any different? Both hold ceremonies for reader-voted awards. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:49, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Maestro2016, well then they should also be removed unless we support that fan-voted awards published by otherwise notable publications are allowed. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 08:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
It was standard for major gaming awards to be reader-voted in the '80s and '90s. It's only in the last decade or so that online user votes can now be manipulated, which wasn't an issue back in the days. Personally, I think reader-voted awards from major publications should count. Maestro2016 (talk) 08:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
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  • Add a link for Time magazines game of 2015 since it is available.

ThatColossalWreck (talk) 03:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

References

  Done Thanks. Liu1126 (talk) 11:16, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Edit request: 2005 is missing and 2004 is incorrect.

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https://awards.bafta.org/award/2005/games/best-game indicates that 2005 is the year HL2 Won Best game, as it released after the cut in 2004 so couldn't win for that year.

https://awards.bafta.org/award/2004/games indicates that in 2004 GTA Vice City won best action, best PC, and best PS2. With Advance Wars 2 winning on GBA. I can't make the edit, but this should be updated. SpaceSalvia (talk) 16:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Entertainment Weekly's 2018 and 2019 lists may not be ranked

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Therefore, they do not contain a GOTY pick. I can see nothing that indicates that these are ranked lists. The numbers refer to slide numbers, and there is no mention of the first or last slide being their GOTY pick. That said, if they are not ranked lists, the order is strange. It is not alphabetical, or chronological. Here are archive links that show the original slide show format. Can anyone confirm that they are ranked, or that they have picked a GOTY?

https://web.archive.org/web/20181220230622/https://ew.com/gaming/the-best-games-of-2018/#the-best-games-of-2018

https://web.archive.org/web/20191221070655/https://ew.com/gaming/best-videogames-2019/?slide=6574935#6574935 IlmeniAVG (talk) 15:09, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Edge Magazine does not have a clear GOTY for 2011

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According to the below source, Edge Magazine does not seem to have an overall GOTY for 2011. Skyward Sword won "Mainstream game of the year", while SpaceChem won "Indie game of the year". If the two categories were distinct (i.e. if an indie game could not have won "mainstream game of the year"), then Edge did not award an overall GOTY for 2011. Someone with access to the original magazine needs to check this.

https://mynintendonews.com/2011/12/17/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-wins-edges-acclaimed-mainstream-game-of-the-year-award/ IlmeniAVG (talk) 09:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've got the magazine here in front of me and I think the award titles are misleading. There's no indication that the mainstream category was exclusionary. I'm reading the categories as being filters, i.e Best Portable Game by it's nature excludes games that weren't on portables from the award, and that's the way that the Indie award reads; best game of the year that wasn't by a mainstream company. Also, in the Skyward Sword text, Edge calls it "this year's best game" which seems unequivocal to me. - X201 (talk) 11:11, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2024

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Add Eurogamer's Game of the Year for 2023, Cocoon Godribbon (talk) 09:24, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 19:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2024

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2018 SwankyStella (talk) 01:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 02:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello, I was still getting used to the formatting of Wikipedia edits. I am requesting that "Matt Makes Games" listed as the developer for the game Celeste be changed to "Maddy Makes Games" to reflect the name change of the company, which can be seen on its website, found here. SwankyStella (talk) 03:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 21:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

New goty source material

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Via the site acclaimedvideogames dot com Blitz4 (talk) 20:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

To filter by publication: https://www.acclaimedvideogames.com/lists/
All publications combined into one award per year: https://www.acclaimedvideogames.com/games/alltime/ Blitz4 (talk) 20:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply