Talk:List of Halo characters/Archive 3
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Merge of Samuel-034
Can Samuel-034 somehow be worked in here?--Adam in MO Talk 23:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ideally it should, but I don't see any content that really deserves being in here; he's mentioned briefly in Master Chief's article where he's important. I would just redirect the article here. --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs (talk) 23:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Will do.--Adam in MO Talk 02:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Halo Wars
Now that Halo Wars it's out, we need to start working in all the new characters from the game, Sergeant Forge, the Unnamed Arbiter etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.157.124.105 (talk) 20:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Protagonist of ODST
Do we have enough info on the ODST player in Halo 3:ODST to warrant a section about him here?--Iner22 (talk) 17:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, given we know so little about him. The characters section of the game can be expanded first, and then considered moved to here; especially as this is mostly a recurring character list barring a few exceptions. --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs (talk) 18:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Didact
Didact, some Forerunner guy who only conjures a faint tinkling of bells in my head, has a link but it doesn't lead anywhere because there's no character description for him on this page. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- He and the Librarian are the only forerunners given names through the forerunner translation program in the Terminals. I don't really think he or the Librarian need a character description, as they were only mentioned in the Terminals, never seen in game, and only appear in Halo 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.15.19 (talk) 15:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Where's Staff Seargent Bryne?
Seargent Bryne is a big part of Harvest's exsistence. Where is he ?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.27.92 (talk) 01:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- I presume Bryne is one of the characters in the books I've got but haven't read? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- He is a main character in Halo: Contact Harvest. To limit the scope of this page, aside from exceptions this article lists only those who appeared in the games or are recurring characters in the expanded universe. --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs (talk) 14:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- What about the Didact guy I mentioned above? He's mentioned in Halo 3 but never seen (obviously, since he's probably long dead). Would he be eligible for this list? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- He is a main character in Halo: Contact Harvest. To limit the scope of this page, aside from exceptions this article lists only those who appeared in the games or are recurring characters in the expanded universe. --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs (talk) 14:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
MJOLNIR armor
Althogh the armor isn't an actual person, it should be thouroghly explained. Without it, Halo wouldn't be what it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.27.92 (talk) 01:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- It is explained. Check the section for Spartans in general. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Halo 3 Elites
The two Elites players 3 and 4 play in Halo 3 co-op were given backstories, weren't they? I'm unsure if the backstories were in the game or not (never played co-op), but why aren't they mentioned here? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 16:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Because there's only a line or two to offer them each, and they don't play a major role. They are (or were, or should be) talked about in the characters section of Halo 3. --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs (talk) 18:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I think I have an entire paragraph for them somewhere. I think (but I can't remember) that it may have come from GamesRadar or CVG. I'll try to find the paragraph later on today. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I haven't found where I got them from, but it appears that it's reliable information.
Well, here’s some handy background info on players three and four, who from now on shall forever be known as:
PLAYER 3 (Sangheili)
Name: N’tho ‘Sraom
Affiliation: Fleet of Retribution/Special Warfare Group/Special Operations
History: N’tho ‘Sraom is the youngest member of his Special Operations unit and is one of a growing number of human sympathizers amongst the Sangheili youth. He is a fairly typical young male adult Sangheili—he began compulsory military service at the end of adolescence, and remains unmarried with no close, non-familial relationships outside of his martial order. N’tho Sraom refused to stand idly by while the Prophets replaced Sangheili units with Jiralhanae packs, and now bears deep resentment toward those Sangheili politicians who landed his kind in their current predicament.
Although N’tho ‘Sraom’s romanticized nationalism is emblematic of all Sangheili, he has developed a healthy respect for humanity—not for their physical abilities or martial prowess, but for their audacity and resolve.
PLAYER 4 (Sangheili)
Name: Usze ‘Taham
Affiliation: Fleet of Retribution/Special Warfare Group/Fleet Security
History: Although Usze ‘Taham was born into a respected merchant family he was fathered by Toha ‘Sumai—one of the preeminent swordfighters of this age. Usze graduated with honors from the top War College in the Iruiru region of Yermo, Sanghelios (a distinction he shares with Rtas ‘Vadum). Shortly after receiving his first post within the Covenant Navy he was offered a place on the Prophets’ Honor Guard but he declined citing “lack of practical experience”. In truth, he had no desire to be part of a largely ceremonial unit, and at the end of his third combat tour, Usze ‘Taham again refused the post—even though his superiors warned him such behavior could be misinterpreted as apostasy.
Since that time Usze has evaded countless punitive actions, at least two assassination attempts, and served with distinction for two additional tours before the Schism. Following the dissolution of the Covenant, he was approached by the Ascetics to become one of their liaisons within the Navy.
I say that it's probably reliable because the Halo Wikia says exactly the same thing.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/N%E2%80%99tho_%E2%80%98Sraom
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Usze_%E2%80%98Taham --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
¡¿Hello?!
¿When are we going to put the Halo Wars characters?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.157.124.105 (talk) 20:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- Save a few characters, almost everyone in the list is recurring--that is, they've appeared in multiple games, books, or a combination of the two. Halo Wars's characters are found in Halo Wars#Characters right now. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Pictures
There's a few pictures in the article; but I believe that this article could be served better by more pictures. I understand that many of the characters are only referred to in books, or never shown on screen: but only having three pictures in an article of over 20 characters seems confusing to me.
The Chief-Johnson-Keyes image has three characters in it: but the lighting is poor and more detailed pictures can be found IMO. I'll see what I can to do get more pictures: but help would be appreciated, as I find myself having less and less time lately. Fightin' Phillie (talk) 18:06, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- We are bound by the non-free content criteria to use as little images as possible. The Chief-Johnson-Keyes shot is underexposed, but it's the best shot I could find showing them together. Characters with their own articles (Gravemind, Arbiter, Cortana) don't have pictures in this list. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 19:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Halo Wars
Am I the only one who thinks that the list should include every character? The word recurring could easily be edited out, and besides, half of the characters on that list don't even seem to be recurring. From what I can see Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs is the only person who doesn't want all the characters to be listed. Robo37 (talk) 16:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Before you continue to make foolish assumptions, I suggest you read the archives. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 16:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I just have, but I'm still getting the impression that more people still want every or at least more characters to be included. I'm a bit obsessive about lists, I like to have everything that can be possibly included on them as a kind of archive or so I can just look up what ever character I want without restrictions. I like to include as many things as possible whenever I can. Most sounds a lot better than almost. Robo37 (talk) 18:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- But this isn't a list. List of Characters in Halo was specifically rejected. It's an article with a deliberately reduced scope so that more real-world information can be included without being drowned in plot details. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 19:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well then I think it should be a list, or maybe a list should be created separately. Cant we have a vote or something simular? Maybe a few people do think that there shouldn't be a list but I can imagine that just as many people would be happy for one to be created. Robo37 (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't a democracy: votes don't matter for much. If you want to make an RfC, that's a different matter. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well then I suppose I'll make an RfC. Robo37 (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't a democracy: votes don't matter for much. If you want to make an RfC, that's a different matter. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well then I think it should be a list, or maybe a list should be created separately. Cant we have a vote or something simular? Maybe a few people do think that there shouldn't be a list but I can imagine that just as many people would be happy for one to be created. Robo37 (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- But this isn't a list. List of Characters in Halo was specifically rejected. It's an article with a deliberately reduced scope so that more real-world information can be included without being drowned in plot details. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 19:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I just have, but I'm still getting the impression that more people still want every or at least more characters to be included. I'm a bit obsessive about lists, I like to have everything that can be possibly included on them as a kind of archive or so I can just look up what ever character I want without restrictions. I like to include as many things as possible whenever I can. Most sounds a lot better than almost. Robo37 (talk) 18:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Robo37 and think that at least the characters in Halo Wars and ODST should be mentioned. There's nothing wrong with adding them in; or have another section or page for them, but I don't think it's right to leave them out completely as they are all part of the Halo universe even if their not in the main trilogy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.12.70.113 (talk) 09:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well now that someone has changed this article into 'List of Halo characters' can I revert it back into the version that I made with the Halo Wars characters in? [[1]] Robo37 (talk) 09:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, because the person who moved it had no idea what they were doing. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I still don't think that's a good enough reason. Why can't we just add the main characters in at least?121.91.29.114 (talk) 08:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- As it's been half a year and the consensus still appears to be in my favour, I'm planning to change this article's title and add a few main characters from Halo Wars and Halo 3: ODST if I dont get any more opposition. Robo37 (talk) 10:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm currently (slowly) working on that. I'd suggest posting it here on the talk page first for general editing and consensus on what people think of what you've written so that it doesn't get deleted. While I agree with someone's opinion that this isn't a list of Halo characters, I feel that adding these characters in won't break that rule. I'm not suggesting we add in Random Dead Grunt #1203 or Crazy Marine (Halo 3 version), but I'm suggesting that the Halo Wars and ODST characters have had a fairly big impact on the Halo universe and deserve a place on this page. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 13:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- For the last time: this is not a list of Halo characters, 'nuff said. I'd be happy with removing some of the non-recurring characters on the list, but it's hardly half the characters as described by Robo (I see only Whitcomb, Kurt, Bias/Forerunner AI. Everyone else appears in multiple Halo media.) The simple fact is you can't include them without turning it into a list. They are adequately covered in Halo Wars#Synopsis, and information about their reception is included there as well. It doesn't need to be doubled here. Finally, aside from misguided desires for "completeness", what's the utility of adding characters here? In Halo Wars' case, they aren't mentioned anywhere else. There's no valid reason for adding more plot details. Characters spanning multiple works means that their full backstory cannot be included in any one synopsis section or similar, and thus having a page to centralize all the information makes sense. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- What is the harm in it though if they have had a major impact in the universe. Compare to the Mass Effect character page. While, yes, it is labelled as a list, it isn't. It shows Commander Shepard, Matriarch Benezia, Saren Arterius, Sovereign, and Miranda, but doesn't list Opold the Merchant, Captain Ventralis, Helena Blake or General Septimus Oraka, despite all of those having their own quests attached to them (and Ventralis having a reasonably large role in part of the main plot). Compare to the Gears of War character list. Mentions all the characters who have an impact on the plot, but doesn't mention the countless King Raven pilots who get shot down, the drivers of the Assault Derricks barring Dizzy (despite at least one being named), the Gears you save during the end of Act Four or Sergeant... Johnson(???) who has a whole subplot devoted to him throughout the collectible items. What is so different between those pages and this one? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- There's no harm involved in a lot of editorial decisions, and pointing to "List of Characters" articles doesn't mean jack. The characters of Halo Wars have not had a major impact in the universe; they appeared in one spinoff and associated promotional material, that's it. If some of them appeared in other games or books, then that might be a reason to include them. But otherwise we're just adding plot details, which per WP:WAF we should be keeping to a bare minimum. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- No need to be rude. I was just asking a question. However, Halo Wars characters have had a major impact in the story. If they didn't stop the Covenant getting the Forerunner fleet, the UNSC wouldn't have even lasted as long as it had. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- We're writers of a general encyclopedia, not fan speculators. That's ascribing an importance that is not borne out via sources. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe we don't know exactly how powerful they were, but surely it's simple logic in that, if the Covenant wanted them, they'd be more powerful than their current ships. Also, they had three Spartans on board (contradicting the books, too). Or does this come under the whole "we're not allowed to count Halo games" that the Halo: Reach page suffered from? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 16:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- We're writers of a general encyclopedia, not fan speculators. That's ascribing an importance that is not borne out via sources. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- No need to be rude. I was just asking a question. However, Halo Wars characters have had a major impact in the story. If they didn't stop the Covenant getting the Forerunner fleet, the UNSC wouldn't have even lasted as long as it had. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- There's no harm involved in a lot of editorial decisions, and pointing to "List of Characters" articles doesn't mean jack. The characters of Halo Wars have not had a major impact in the universe; they appeared in one spinoff and associated promotional material, that's it. If some of them appeared in other games or books, then that might be a reason to include them. But otherwise we're just adding plot details, which per WP:WAF we should be keeping to a bare minimum. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- What is the harm in it though if they have had a major impact in the universe. Compare to the Mass Effect character page. While, yes, it is labelled as a list, it isn't. It shows Commander Shepard, Matriarch Benezia, Saren Arterius, Sovereign, and Miranda, but doesn't list Opold the Merchant, Captain Ventralis, Helena Blake or General Septimus Oraka, despite all of those having their own quests attached to them (and Ventralis having a reasonably large role in part of the main plot). Compare to the Gears of War character list. Mentions all the characters who have an impact on the plot, but doesn't mention the countless King Raven pilots who get shot down, the drivers of the Assault Derricks barring Dizzy (despite at least one being named), the Gears you save during the end of Act Four or Sergeant... Johnson(???) who has a whole subplot devoted to him throughout the collectible items. What is so different between those pages and this one? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- For the last time: this is not a list of Halo characters, 'nuff said. I'd be happy with removing some of the non-recurring characters on the list, but it's hardly half the characters as described by Robo (I see only Whitcomb, Kurt, Bias/Forerunner AI. Everyone else appears in multiple Halo media.) The simple fact is you can't include them without turning it into a list. They are adequately covered in Halo Wars#Synopsis, and information about their reception is included there as well. It doesn't need to be doubled here. Finally, aside from misguided desires for "completeness", what's the utility of adding characters here? In Halo Wars' case, they aren't mentioned anywhere else. There's no valid reason for adding more plot details. Characters spanning multiple works means that their full backstory cannot be included in any one synopsis section or similar, and thus having a page to centralize all the information makes sense. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm currently (slowly) working on that. I'd suggest posting it here on the talk page first for general editing and consensus on what people think of what you've written so that it doesn't get deleted. While I agree with someone's opinion that this isn't a list of Halo characters, I feel that adding these characters in won't break that rule. I'm not suggesting we add in Random Dead Grunt #1203 or Crazy Marine (Halo 3 version), but I'm suggesting that the Halo Wars and ODST characters have had a fairly big impact on the Halo universe and deserve a place on this page. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 13:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I do not know what Halo: Reach problem you're referring to. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- It was just a little argument on the Reach talk page here. As far as I know, it's sorted now. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 18:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm planning to add the content that was present with this revision, but there seems to lot of mistakes and I don’t think I writ those sections terribly well so it'll need a bit of tweaking. Robo37 (talk) 08:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, yuck. That's horrible. Might be better just to write from scratch. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 09:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah well as you can see I'm not a very good writer, so it's probably best if you make those sections. I think that was the first edit I made on this Wiki so nowadays I might be able to make it look a bit more decent looking... but I still think you'd do a better job. :P Robo37 (talk) 10:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Wait, what? That was your edit? Oops. (blushes) Sorry. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 10:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- I said 'I don’t think I writ those sections terribly well'. :)
- Wait, what? That was your edit? Oops. (blushes) Sorry. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 10:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah well as you can see I'm not a very good writer, so it's probably best if you make those sections. I think that was the first edit I made on this Wiki so nowadays I might be able to make it look a bit more decent looking... but I still think you'd do a better job. :P Robo37 (talk) 10:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, yuck. That's horrible. Might be better just to write from scratch. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 09:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'm planning to add the content that was present with this revision, but there seems to lot of mistakes and I don’t think I writ those sections terribly well so it'll need a bit of tweaking. Robo37 (talk) 08:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- It was just a little argument on the Reach talk page here. As far as I know, it's sorted now. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 18:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Before one of us makes those sections we should sort the issue with Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs first, I get the feeling that he'll just revert any edits we make. Robo37 (talk) 10:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- I was under the impression you'd meant that you weren't sure about your confidence in writing them now. And I'm going to post them here first. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 10:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Before one of us makes those sections we should sort the issue with Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs first, I get the feeling that he'll just revert any edits we make. Robo37 (talk) 10:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Is it okay is I move this page to "List of characters in Halo", add the {{expand-list}} template, and change the line 'Recurring characters from Halo' from the third sentence into "Some of the characters from Halo"? Either way that section of text should be removed, as Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs has said himself there are 'some of the non-recurring characters on the list', so saying that only recurring characters are listed and putting that in bold is very misleading. Robo37 (talk) 17:55, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Then remove the nonrecurring characters? This article is not structured as a list, this is on purpose, it should not be renamed as a list again. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I know this is not list, this whole discussion is about turning it into a list. And as the consensus is in my favour, I'm afraid you have no say in the matter.
- I don't mean to sound nasty, I respect your opinion... but that's just how it is. Robo37 (talk) 18:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is getting out of hand. Shall we bring it up, once and for all at WPVG? Get some people who aren't emotionally involved with the page in? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 18:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Forget it, I can't be bothered to write any more. I've just deleted a ton of stuff from the page. If someone else wants to continue, bring it up at WPVG before the talk page collapses into anarchy. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 19:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is getting out of hand. Shall we bring it up, once and for all at WPVG? Get some people who aren't emotionally involved with the page in? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 18:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I don't mean to sound nasty, I respect your opinion... but that's just how it is. Robo37 (talk) 18:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
New Characters
James Gregory Cutter
Captain James Gregory Cutter (voiced by some guy (no credits in manual)) is a captain in the UNSC navy, appearing in Halo Wars. Twenty years before the events of Halo: Combat Evolved, he is the commanding officer of the Spirit of Fire, a civilian ship requisitioned by the UNSC in 2520 and refitted for active military duty. Two and a half kilometres long and with a crew of 5,500, the Spirit is a supply ship, bringing food, water, fuel and reinforcements to ships engaged in active duty. He is confident and his has a strong loyalty to him, though the Office of Naval Intelligence believes that his ties to his family on Reach work against any greater military career. Cutter is, however, a keen military tactician and, in the game, is the only leader to have access to orbital bombardments via the Spirit's Magnetic Accelerator Cannon, ODSTs or the Elephant, a mobile infantry base.
Discuss
There's no citations as of yet, but I'm mostly focusing on creating them right now. All information comes from the Halo Wars Strategy Guide or the game's timeline (also contained in the guide). If I can be bothered to reread it (it was fairly awful), I may have some information from Halo Wars: Genesis, the graphic novel that came with the collector's edition. Feel free to edit at will if you think you can improve them. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 11:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- So far, so good. Perhaps there should be a mention of this "Prophecy" ship that's mentioned in the manual? Robo37 (talk) 12:47, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Possibly, though I'm not totally sure. There's not much to say about it other than it was destroyed weeks later and the reasons behind the refusal to command it were already mentioned (ties to his family). --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 12:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Halo Wars Arbiter
I just encountered this on the Halo Wars main menu on the liitle bar at the bottom with snippets of game information and statistics:
Not many people know that the Arbiter's given birth name is Shirley.
No, seriously. I'm not vandalising the article by putting this in. I've only ever seen it once, but I have seen it. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- As in the article revision, it's probably a joke. Spartan S58 (talk) 21:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- As I said to Peptuck, I think it was, it just seemed too bizarre a joke to be a joke. I mean, it wasn't all that funny. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I believe it's a reference to Airplane! ("Don't call me Shirley!")70.70.21.83 (talk) 06:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, my error. I believe the reference is correct, and yes, Bungie is known to insert pop-culture trivia, but the developers of Halo Wars is not Bungie, but Ensemble. Still, I believe Ensemble did it as an homage to Bungie. 70.70.21.83 (talk) 06:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- I believe it's a reference to Airplane! ("Don't call me Shirley!")70.70.21.83 (talk) 06:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- As I said to Peptuck, I think it was, it just seemed too bizarre a joke to be a joke. I mean, it wasn't all that funny. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Thel Vadamee confirmed as Arbiter
After doing some digging around, a French Halo site managed to get an interview with Tobias S. Buckell. Sources are as follows:
Dibol (talk) 06:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- uhhh im pretty sure that Vadum was the shipmaster of the Shadow of Intent capital ship and the rest of the fleet, and it is unlikely that both the shipmaster and the arbiter came from the Vadum family and only the arbiter was awarded with the honorary warrior prefix "ee." In fact, after the Great Schism between the Sanghelli, a few Legoko ect. ect. Covenant Separatists and the Covenant Loyalists, I believe that the Sanghelli removed honorary prefixes like "ee" all together. 67.170.15.19 (talk) 15:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Chips Dubbo
Should we add the character Chips Dubbo to this list? He was the Australian guy, he managed to survive all three games (because he's Australian of course).202.6.138.66 (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- He may have been in all three games, but do we actually know a thing about him? No? Topic, end of. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- If he was a general marine bitmap included in all three games, then that may be a recurring character but is not significant. If it is from a canon halo story/book (although i can't recall anyone with the name of Chips Duddo), then it could be added in the corresponding book/story article page i suppose 67.170.15.19 (talk) 15:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes he should be added, there is a lot of information on Chips. Look up halowiki.com. He is instantly recognisable by fans because of his accent. He has a whole back story and there's details on all his battle involvement. I think he should be added, as should the others in the original parties.Toddles9 (talk) 06:57, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Foe Hammer
Is there any paticular reason why Foe Hammer is missing? She's one of the most important characters of game 1. Lots42 (talk) 11:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- How so? She's just a plot device. You never even see her. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 12:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, that one I'll have to agree with. You don't see her face, rarely hear her voice and she's just a flying taxi. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 13:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Pretty essential to the plot, IMHO and deserving of a mention. Ships don't fly themselves. Plus, of course, being part of the well-selling novel. Just increases noteabillity there. Lots42 (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- How many lines does she have in the game? Where is she essential to the plot in a way other than "take Master Chief here"? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- She is a major character! She deserves to be in here, bros. --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 22:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- And I quote "Where is she essential to the plot in a way other than "take Master Chief here"?" --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 22:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- She is a major character! She deserves to be in here, bros. --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 22:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- How many lines does she have in the game? Where is she essential to the plot in a way other than "take Master Chief here"? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Dudes, please, there is no need for raised emotions. I think she is noteable because she takes Master Chief everywhere. Some people disagree. Oh well. No big deal. Lots42 (talk) 05:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Raised emotions? What on Earth made you think I was angry? --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 10:44, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- It's worth noting that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foe_Hammer refers to this page, but there's no mention of Foe Hammer on it. BjornvandeSand (talk) 20:42, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
2401 Penitent Tangent
As this has (or may be) been merged into the article, don't you think it fitting that the article should mention him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrscientistman (talk • contribs) 05:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- New threads go at the bottom. As for the section in question, I deleted it, along with quite a few others per some of the above conversations regarding arguments about non-recurring characters. Since 2401 was only in one game, that counts as non-recurring. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Halo Legends - Cartoon DVD
Some new characters...
- Daisy-23 (KIA)
- Joseph-123
- Ralph-303 (KIA)
- SPARTAN-1337 (in the Dragon Ball lookalike cartoon)
- ODST "Ghost"
- Cal-141 (KIA)
- ODST MSgt. Cortez
- ODST Checkman (KIA)
- ODST O'Brien
- SPARTANs have a new toy... "Booster frame" space bike
- SPARTAN-SOLOMON
- SPARTAN-ARTHUR
70.29.210.242 (talk) 13:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- All those characters are (currently) non-recurring. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Actually the booster frame appears in one of the books, but not enough to claim it as recurring67.170.15.19 (talk) 14:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
DR halsey Diary new info.
Miranda keys.... Dr halsey's Daughter, I just read DR halsey's Diary (comes with halo reach and yes i have it early) in it.... it STRongly suggest Miranda is halsey's daughter. Obviously untill more people have the diary it wouldnt be appropriate to edit wiki, but...... i want to throw this out there.
Also in the diary DR halsey believes that the Spartan III's are inferior to the Spartan II's
I just want to put this in discussiuon to get it started (obviously no wiki editing yet), if you search you can find the diary online its a 66mb zip. 205 pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.131.95.10 (talk) 09:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- She might be... If so then Dr. Halsey and Commander Keys had some type of relationship in the past. And I also believe that the Spartan IIs are way better then the Spartan IIIs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CJISBEAST (talk • contribs) 02:39, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Eric Nylund's novels explain this in detail. It is very possible that Halsey and Keyes had a relationship in the past; one of Keyes' first assignments as a lieutenant was to escort Halsey to Eridanus II to study candidate 117 for the Spartan-II project. As for the Spartan-IIIs, they are indeed nowhere near as good as the Spartan-IIs. Spartan-IIIs were designed to be cheap, disposable versions of Spartan-IIs and were created by Colonel Ackerson, who was originally dead against Halsey and her Spartan program. Cooper 25 (talk) 18:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Spartans of Halo Reach
I was wondering if the Spartans in Halo Reach play a big enough part in the series to warrant a section on them. Rather than an individual section on each Spartan, e.g Jorge, but rather a section about all of the (perhaps named Noble Team?) Spartans with each one as a sub-section. Outlaw265 (talk) 18:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- As framed, the article is for recurring characters of Halo to keep the length down; that is, if Noble Team appeared in another game, it would warrant a section. As it stands, Halo: Reach#Synopsis covers the basic points and plot for each character. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:26, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- Why is there a section on Tartarus if he only appears in Halo 2 then? Outlaw265 (talk) 13:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- He also appears in Contact Harvest as a major character. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Forerunner Characters
Since new Forerunner trilogy has started, should the new characters be added here in Forerunner block or in the Forerunners article? ASHUIND 21:10, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- To keep the list down, this page only contains characters recurring outside of their originating works—so at this point, no. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:22, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Redirect problem
Prophet of Truth redirects here, even though I was looking for a figure in the Muslim religion. The word Prophet of Truth is a synonym to that figure in Muslim religion. I think something will have to be done to avoid controversy on this. Ilikepie757 (talk) 23:33, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Johnson
In the 'Fall of Reach' graphic novel, Sgt. Johnson plays a pivotal role, but this doesn't seem to be mentioned here at all. What's up with that? Is the graphic novel alternate universe? Lots42 (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2012 (UTC)