Talk:List of Hawaii Five-0 (2010 TV series) episodes

Title references

I was wondering if anyone else thought it useful or relevant to have something about the meanings of the titles somewhere on the page. Obviously, each episode is a word or phrase relating to the story of the episode in Hawaiian, but some people might be interested to have a translation here. ABC has thus far released the English meanings within the episode press releases so they obviously think it has some notability. If people agree, how should it be formatted? I know that the Big Bang Theory pages put an explanaition of the title in the short summaries, or we could create a special table for the translation. Personally I'm not particularly fussed about it either way, but if there are people here who think it would be relevant then I wouldn't mind having it. SchrutedIt08 (talk) 06:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• • • Well I've added them a few times and they always get erased.... Lilly (talk) 18:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I've removed these once more, these are not alternative titles, they are translations. Episode 10 has an actual alternative title which has been repeatedly removed in favor of these translations. And they are ultimately trivial anyway. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 19:07, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but now I've learned how to add a new category to the table which will list them not as Alternate titles but as English translations. I feel it's a good compromise .

It is a good compromise because it allows our readers to see the translations but doesn't put them as high of a priority as Alternate Titles...Lilly (talk) 19:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Dancing Men Code

There is a variant of the dancing man code on a postcard within the champion toolbox in s01e05. McGarrett’s sister Mary, closes the episode taking pictures of several items, including this card. Three words or eleven unique characters are printed on it, there is also a postmark from China. Any ideas on decryption? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.133.135.149 (talk) 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

U.S. Ratings Table

Why can't I add U.S. ratings table? There is more to TV ratings in the U.S. than just the number of viewers watching each episode. The U.S. also has the rating/share of households and rating/share of the age demographic 18-49. The 18-49 age demographic is actually more important to networks in the U.S. than the total number of viewers watching each episode. The Nielsen ratings page has a lot of information on the importance of rating/share.129.62.200.171 (talk) 05:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

DVR ratings

The list below shows ratings for Hawaii Five-0 season one including the increase from Live+7 DVRs, as the series is often high on this kind of viewing. I have decided to place them there so somebody can decide whether or not to replace them with Live viewings in the episode table, or to include it in the ratings section for each episode article. Either way right now, a suitable home is the talk page. -- Matthew RD 22:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

№	Episode	Air date	U.S. viewers (million)	Live+7 viewers (million)	Ref
1	"Pilot"	September 20, 2010 (2010-09-20)	14.213	17.587	[1]
2	"Ohana"	September 27, 2010 (2010-09-27)	12.753	16.070	[2]
3	"Malama Ka Aina"	October 4, 2010 (2010-10-04)	12.294	15.424	[3]
4	"Lanakila"	October 11, 2010 (2010-10-11)	10.727	13.612	[4]
5	"Nalowale"	October 18, 2010 (2010-10-18)	10.971	13.951	[5]
6	"Ko'olauloa"	October 25, 2010 (2010-10-25)	10.234	13.137	[6]
7	"Ho'apono"	November 1, 2010 (2010-11-01)	10.884	14.114	[7]
8	"Mana'o"	November 8, 2010 (2010-11-08)	10.262	13.760	[8]
9	"Po'ipu"	November 15, 2010 (2010-11-15)	10.365	13.578	[9]
10	"Heihei"	November 22, 2010 (2010-11-22)	12.384	15.722	[10]
11	"Palekaiko"	December 6, 2010 (2010-12-06)	10.552	13.941	[11]
12	"Hana 'a'a Makehewa"	December 13, 2010 (2010-12-13)	10.982	14.107	[12]
13	"Ke Kinohi"	January 3, 2011 (2011-01-03)	11.022	14.921	[13]
14	"He Kane Hewa'ole"	January 17, 2011 (2011-01-17)	10.863	14.378	[14]
15	"Kai e'e"	January 23, 2011 (2011-01-23)	19.335	n/a	[15]
16	"E Malama"	February 7, 2011 (2011-02-07)	11.066	14.334	[16]
17	"Powa Maka Moana"	February 14, 2011 (2011-02-14)	10.755	13.991	[17]
18	"Loa Aloha"	February 21, 2011 (2011-02-21)	10.487	13.815	[18]
19	"Na Me'e Laua Na Paio"	March 21, 2011 (2011-03-21)	10.054	13.452	[19]
20	"Ma Ke Kahakai"	April 11, 2011 (2011-04-11)	9.540	12.725	[20]
21	"Ho'opa'i"	April 18, 2011 (2011-04-18)	11.438	14.711	[21]
22	"Ho'ohuli Na'au"	May 2, 2011 (2011-05-02)	9.834	12.878	[22]
23	"Ua Hiki Mai Kapalena Pau"	May 9, 2011 (2011-05-09)	9.445	12.665	[23]
24	"Oia'i'o"	May 16, 2011 (2011-05-16)	10.406	13.609	[24]

This could probably be moved to the season one page now, right? SchrutedIt08 (talk) 01:15, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Done, I'll also get around to doing the same for season two sometime soon. -- Matthew RD 01:37, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

We seem to be going nowhere fast... So I'm doing a RFC

Is it beneficial to have the English translations of the titles for Hawaiian names of episodes?

This is the basic gist of it: I say yes because:

• most people can't remember the Hawaiian names
• most readers of English Wikipedia don't speak Hawai'ian
• CBS includes translations in their press releases
• I do agree they are not alternate titles but as they are translations, I used Aux1 to be the column for English translation

Xeworlebi says no because:

• They are not alternative titles
• the actual alternative title was removed for one episode (but I'd like to point out that I left it there and some IP removed it)
• They are trivial.

That's basically it. Lilly (talk) 20:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

It seems that the translation would be helpful. Many users would find this information helpful. The fact that CBS includes translations in their press releases means you can get a properly cited translation. As long as it is made clear the translation is not part of the episode title it seems like a good addition.meitme (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree that translations are valuable. We routinely provide translations for all sorts of foreign-language phrases. The usual thing to do is to provide it in square brackets, like this: Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis [I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream]. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I came here looking for translations of the titles, and when I didn't find them, I set out to provide them, and ran into this controversy; my little edit (linking the title "Ohana" to the existing Wikipedia page by that name) was undone in eleven minutes. While that was happening, I was trying to add the phrase "Malama Ka Aina" ("Care for the Land") to the Wiktionary (modeling on the existing entry for "mele Kalikimaka", "Merry Christmas") and within a few minutes it was deleted, not corrected, because it was capitalized and missing an apostrophe. Don't y'all work with people? Do you just delete each other's stuff? No wonder you're "going nowhere fast!" If you don't want any new people to participate, say so and save us all the time and bother! TennTwister (talk) 15:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Seems pretty obvious to me - they don't take anything away, they help the non-Hawaiian speaking readers of English wikipedia and CBS does so itself. Natebailey (talk) 11:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: I just came across this. I don't agree with the contention the English titles aren't alternate titles. If CBS includes them on the press release, they mean for them to be made public, and possibly used. That suggests an alternate title to me. I see no harm in adding the English titles, moreover, given our mission to inform, I find it bewildering anyone would question the addition of the translations, which are common practice in other context. As for them being trivial, that's just laughable. Put them in! Drmargi (talk) 17:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Can't believe I haven't commented yet, but I support the inclusion of the English titles. They aren't trivial if they are released and made public. -- Matthew RD 17:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

There's pretty clear consensus to include. I'd have added them, but I don't know where they are, and I left a message for the original poster. Go for it if you do! Drmargi (talk) 17:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I will. I kinda forgot about this because for about 2 or so weeks after I did an RFC I got no response so I just forgot. Anyhow translations up and added correct ʻ ʻ instead of apostrophes. Also tried to create a consistent style throughout the article and posted a guide for it here below. Lilly (talk) 05:07, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

separate page for season 1

Can we create a separate page for season 1? -- 91.64.29.81 (talk) 16:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

It's far too soon. Separate articles are generally created when the episodes article is overly long. Drmargi (talk) 17:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, NCIS: Los Angeles from Season 2 was even a separate page. -- 91.64.29.81 (talk) 17:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

A mini manual of style.

1. For example when there are two HAWAIIAN titles the primary one should be listed as " Title = Awesome title " (minus the quotes) when there is another secondary HAWAIIAN title, right underneath the above line about the title should be " AltTitle = Less awesome title " (again minus quotes) Then the english translation should be listed underneath that line as " Aux1 = boring english title " (once again...)

Also many of the Hawaiian titles have ʻokinas. CBS uses them as apostropes, however that is not correct. To insert an ʻokina, you simply type okina between TWO SETS {{ }}. Remember that Oʻahu has an ʻokina. However although it is more correct to say "Hawaiʻi" as the English language has fully absorbed Hawaii without the ʻokina, I think we should leave it out in the word Hawaii. Also it seems to me like in the show McGarrett is the only one referred to by last name, almost never by Steve. Even amongst friends and Kono, Danny and Chin Ho. Therefore I think that we should use McGarrett to refer to him and first names for the rest of the team. (Danny, Kono, Chin Ho.)

Just a thought...

If anyone has any comments or ideas feel free to post them here.

Lilly (talk) 05:03, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Season 2 section should be on seperate page

Season 2 of that show should be on the seperate page since season 1 is. BattleshipMan (talk) 04:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

It should. Feel free to create one. SchrutedIt08 (talk) 04:46, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Done (can't believe it took this long). -- Matthew RD 17:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Crossover with NCIS Los Angeles

How should the season 2 episode 21 "Pa Make Loa" (Touch of Death) crossover with NCIS Los Angeles season 3 episode 21 "Touch of Death" be noted? Bizzybody (talk) 21:34, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

season 3 premiere

The season 3 premiere will air one day earlier in Hawaii. Will you note this? -- 91.64.25.60 (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Season 3 extra page

When will season 3 become a extra page??? -- 91.64.24.5 (talk) 11:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Accents

Why does this article make use of ʻ instead of '? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:46, 14 February 2020 (UTC)