Talk:List of IATA-indexed railway stations
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SBB in Mulhouse
editCan someone explain this entry to me please:
- ZDH SBB Rail Station, Basel, Switzerland and Mulhouse, France
According to my atlas, the cities of Basel and Mulhouse are some 30km apart. I've been to the railway stations in the centres of both cities, and they are quite distinct stations which are also presumably 30km apart. I know that Basel and Mulhouse do share an airport, and I'm wondering if this is what is causing the confusion. Certainly the above needs either removing or explaining better. -- Chris j wood 00:07, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- No response to this in over a month. Also the Airport code database referenced in our article IATA airport code knows nothing of IATA code ZDH. So I'm removing this dubious entry. If you know better, please replace and quote a source. -- Chris j wood 16:54, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Probably the railway station in Basle. Basel#Transportation says "Three railway stations—those of the German, French and Swiss networks—lie within the city (although the Swiss (Basel SBB) and French (Basel SNCF) stations are actually in the same complex, separated by Customs and Immigration facilities)." --Henrygb 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- When searching http://www.world-airport-codes.com i saw three codes for Basel BSL and MLH appeared to be the Euro-airport and ZBA to be Basel Bad railstation and nothing on ZDH. Amadeus.net however shows ZDH to be "Sbb Rail Svc (ZDH), Basel Mulhouse, Switzerland" and ZBA "Basel Bad Rail Stn (ZBA), Basel Mulhouse, Switzerland". The air system happens to label it as a single city because of the airport. I don't think a single city can span across a border. For example Niagara Falls, USA is a different city to Niagara Falls, Canada even if it is just a wide river in between. So our article is correct concering ZDH. BIL 13:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps I can clarify as a resident of Basel. BSL, MLH and EAP refer to EuroAirport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg, which because it is jointly in both France and Switzerland has multiple codes.
- From Basel SBB station you can through-book flights via Zürich airport (I can't confirm the code).
- Basel also has a second station, Basel Badische Bahnhof, which belongs to DB (German Railways), and this, as a "German" station, will allow through booking via Frankfurt airport.
- "I don't think a single city can span across a border". Perhaps not in the sense of the same municipal authority covering both sides of the border, but it can in the sense of the built-up area stradling borders. Basel conurbation spans 3 countries, and the city is served by 3 different national railway companies (SBB, DB and SNCF).
TiffaF 13:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Actually is a railway service for flights of Swiss Lufthansa, and several charters
Basel SBB station (South Station) ( do not mix it with Basel Badische Bahnhof North Station) has a check-in zone for flights in Zurich and Geneva and the code is ZDH
More details
http://www.sbb.ch/en/station-services/services/baggage/check-in-at-the-railstation.html
or here
Rail&Fly
editRail&Fly is the common name for the use of the codesharing between trainstations and airlines. reg. Mion 06:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- With respect, it is not "the common name", and is totally unknown in North America. The only hits on a Google search are for a branded service of Deutche Bahn. It is inappropriate to use here, as "AirTrain" and "Train-to-the-plane" would also be inappropriate. I will remove it again; if I am reverted, I will not re-revert, but I will apply {{limitedgeographicscope}}. --CComMack (t•c) 22:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, this is the english version of wikipedia, the term Rail & Fly, is coined in Germany, Greece, Scandanavia, The Netherlands, (you can buy cheaper tickets in Belgium to train to Amsterdam and board the plane there) in other countrys the name Rail & Fly is converted into the local language. Bottom line is that IATA which is an airline organisation had a reason to number trainstations. The fact that the system isn't used under this name in North America is not a proper reason to remove it. and what is {{tl|limitedgeographicscope} ? reg Mion 08:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The branded name from Deutche Bahn is AiRail Service. This is an EU wide integration plan document. http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:uGoT5IbWa4gJ:158.169.134.71/comm/transport/air/raiff/doc/2004_annex4_operational_integration.pdf+rail%26fly+france&hl=nl&gl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=5 reg. Mion 08:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Eurostar : http://www.qatarairways.com/950.2003.0.0.1.0.htm Fly Rail . Mion 09:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Source
editDoes anybody have a quotable free source for all this data for verification? All I could find were lists of both airports and railway stations on third party sites (e.g., [1][2]) which are probably derivatives of the $1k+ original lists available at IATA store. Some google-fu led me to an [3] internal document of IATA that is copyrighted, but might at least confirm the data in the article. There is a code search app on the IATA site, but that lists only airports & airlines, but not the Q-, X-, Z- railway station-only entries. --Hosszuka (talk) 02:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Linking
editTo get this list in a consequent shape: Linking station names - sure. Linking cities and countries: yes or no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.5.39.241 (talk) 01:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Geneva
editThe text for GVA currently reads
- GVA: Gare de Cornavin (underneath Geneva airport)
I attempted to change this to
- GVA: Geneva Cointrin railway station (underneath Geneva airport)
but it was reverted.
The airport has its own station, officially known in English as Geneva Airport railway station [1], but also commonly known as Geneva Cointrin (Cointrin being the name of the locality and the former official name of the airport). This station is indeed underneath the airport.
Cornavin station, on the other hand, is in the city centre, about 5 km from the airport, and is officially known in English as just "Geneva Station" [2].
Unfortunately I can't find a definitive source as to whether IATA code GVA refers to:
- the airport and the airport's train station, i.e. Geneva Cointrin (this seems more likely, especially given that this code is in the "Rail lines at airports" section of the page, and would match my change)
- the airport and the city centre train station, i.e. Geneva Cornavin (which would require a change to the explanatory text "underneath the airport").
Missing stations, please add
editThese stations are missing (please add): ZLP Zürich Hauptbahnhof, Zurich, Switzerland 2A02:1205:C6A3:BAB0:C16C:985C:9CE0:1794 (talk) 13:22, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Withdrawal?
editAs of 2023, I am under the impression that these IATA codes for railway stations are being withdrawn - at least those for Brussels South railway station and Antwerpen-Berchem railway station are no longer valid at iata's own website. Doesn't this list need more systematic review, perhaps even to be removed completely? Jan olieslagers (talk) 12:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- These codes are still being used in the Amadeus Global Distribution System today. The IATA website does not list rail stations, but I think this is because they want to sell their commercial data set. 2600:4040:501C:1E01:B0DB:955B:48E7:53EC (talk) 20:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- The codes are still in Sabre (travel reservation system) also. This website has a free lookup for the train station iata codes: https://airportsbase.org/France/all/Paris/Gare_du_Nord_Rail_Stn --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)