Talk:List of Irish railway accidents

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Only three of the listed accidents, nos. 1, 3 & 6, belong in a "list railway accidents in the Republic of Ireland". The remainder occured before the formation of the modern state of Ireland & therefore don't meet the table's definition Suckindiesel 22:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Removed refs to non ROI accidents to comply with stated aim of article. Suckindiesel 21:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it would have been better to redefine the article's aims, rather than to delete the majority of it. I have now done that. WilloTheWisp 22:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I did give 10-days notice, which seemed sufficient. I find the new geographical criteria used to be a bit odd as both counties Cavan & Monaghan are now excluded. Before 1921, all 32 counties of Ireland formed part of the UK & therefore accidents occurring pre 1921 in, for example, Cork & Armagh belong in the same listing. Suckindiesel 00:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

This article's selection criteria is silly and anachronistic. The Republic of Ireland didn't exist until 1922, so to be pedantic, any accidents before then occured in the UK... and more to the point, the Irish rail system was island-wide (with its own Irish guage) and it makes little point to exclude accidents in what is now Northern Ireland from the article. One of the worst was near Armagh, for instance. --feline1 (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more, currently, article excludes the single, most important, Irish railway accident, i.e. Armargh. Suckindiesel (talk) 10:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Three or more fatalities criterion

I've added a few accidents that had only one or two fatalities; however, the Bray Head accident (two fatalities) was already there. I'd be happy to remove accidents with fewer than three fatalities, but I think we should come up with some justification for that cut-off. I realise that the article shouldn't try to cover every single instance of (say) a person being struck by a train, but this shouldn't be a problem if we stick to the traditional Railway Inspectorate category of train accidents, rather than movement or non-movement accidents (see [1])Grover Snodd (talk) 11:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I've now edited the intro to reflect the fact that it contains accidents with one or more fatalities to train occupants. I don't intend including non-fatal accidents for the moment, though arguably at least some (Knockcroghery for instance) deserve inclusion. Grover Snodd (talk) 12:12, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Dunkettle or Dunkitt?

The Railways Archive link for the "Dunkettle" accident goes to one at Dunkitt. I have evidence from another source (G.R. Mahon's "Irish Railways in 1856" in the Autumn 1957 IRRS Journal) of an accident on that date at Dunkitt; the details of the accident broadly match the ones in the table (though Mahon has only five dead). Do the Times references give the location as Dunkettle, and, if so, is there the possibility they got the location wrong? Grover Snodd (talk) 14:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I've verified that it is Dunkitt, although there seems to be some confusion among sources as to the number of deaths (which also arises for Straffan, and perhaps others). Grover Snodd (talk) 13:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

First column

Is there any point in keeping the first column in the table? All it seems to do is indicate the order in which the entries were added to the article (the actual dates of the occurrences are in the second column). Grover Snodd (talk) 19:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I've now removed the column, but anyone who can justify putting it back is welcome to do so. Grover Snodd (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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