Talk:List of K-1 champions

This article should be totally redone. It should be rewritten and wikified. The style maintained in this article is improper and prohibited. According to MOS:SCROLL, "these methods should not be used in the article body", and, according to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Scrolling_lists, "should never be used in the article prose or references, because of issues with readability, accessibility, and printing." --RebelzGang (talk) 07:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about, wikified???, it links to every event and fighter listed, thats the whole point of this article, "List of K-1 champions". Something similar, List of heavyweight boxing champions or List of UFC events, List of Pride events. You add all these tags up like orphaned, wikified hard to navigate etc. Collapsible makes it easier to navigate, just open the section you want to see, open all the sections and you can print the whole article. There's nothing wrong with readability and printing. I gotta tell you in this case here you got little bit carried away by adding tags. If this is your way to contribute here in wiki, you gotta find yourself a new assignment.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 21:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Please, try to maintain some calm and manners. there is no need to be so rude to make a point. about the orphan tag, how many times have i tagged that? You plz tell me? only the first time, and it was an accident. after that i did NOT tag that again. and my point about the wikification tag is not that "its a table and so it sucks", thats not the point. the fact that its collapsable IS the point. the fact that the info is not open to begin with and that individuals can NOT print-out the information is the point. your comparison and references to the UFC and PRIDE articles do not prove anything and are irrelivent, as they are NOT collapsable. they're perfect and stationary tables that CAN be printed out and esily accessed as well. however collapsable sections can NOT be printed out and are inaccessible via many browsers. that is my point. if youre finding it hard to understand, the problem is NOT lack of information but the style and layout used and applied here. i have clearly given you some refernces above (in my first post) that cite these problems, please try to give them a read.

and no, honestly im not some sort of "super contributer" to wikipedia and am not tryin to be, im more of the "reader", the person whom wikipedia is most targetted at. i come and browse, various information and articles, but anything that may be out of order or difficult for the reader, i try to see that it has been improved. obviously, i may not change the article myself in all cases. as a person who is not associated with the subject would be better not to change the article themself, and would be best to leave it to those whom are informed or associated with the subject. that is the point why indiviuals come to wikipedia, to seek out the knowledge and gain info, hence, u cannot expect everyone to restructure the article themselves everytime if they find a problem with it.

i cannot comprehend why u are finding it hard to understand or calculate, as my original post was quite clear. and i made no mention of any possile problems related to the events or fighters. so why would u think that?? the problem is with the style and layout used. and i gave clear citations why it is prohibitted and disliked. and, it is also very upsetting and amateurish to see that you have directly reverted the tags without continuing a discussion on the talk page and coming to some sort of consent. --RebelzGang (talk) 06:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I read your references and it doesn't say it prohibited. Theres hundreds of collapsible pages, i got the format from Wikiproject Icehockey. You click it and once everything opens up you can print as much as you want. Amateurish? - The way you reverted my edits right now, you made it hidden again??? Answer me this, you don't think the article here in question, the way it is collapsible, makes it easier to navigate?Marty Rockatansky (talk) 09:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand you man, checking your other edits as well, whats up with all this tagging? You see something missing add, fix or work on it, don't just put buncha tags up. Like Siti Nurhaliza, theres 11 references in the bottom of her page.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 09:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

it is good to see the article has been improved since last. and as for my tagging, i only do it when i see that its necessary, not to complicate things or upset anyone, please. and if im associated to the subject, i do work on it myself. but im mostly a reader. i used to be once a contributer on a previous account or two in the distant past, you would be surprised to know the number of articles ive originally had created and/or worked on, but thats nothing important. and i didnt/dont mean to anger anyone. --RebelzGang (talk) 16:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

exactly, why is the k-3 tournament championship winner under the World MAX champions' category. they are two completely different tournament lines. K-3 was not under the MAX GP banner, and definately wasnt a World MAX finals tournament. i believe it should properly placed. DhakaAnime (talk) 02:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

K-1 World MAX Champions, K-3 Grand Prix '95

It is to my understanding that the K-3 and K-1 max championships were of seperate catagories and as such should be seperated. If this is false discard this message. 7:03 Nov 08, 2010 unregistered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.181.105.243 (talk) 02:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

This message is regarding Ivan Hippolyte being placed as a K-1 Max Champion and should be reeditied as a K-3 Grand Prix Champion. 3:53 Nov 16, 2010 Unregistered.

Within the K-1 official website they state their K-1 World Max champions in order of induction. In no official way do they include or recognize Ivan Hippolyte among that list indicating that Ivan should be placed within a separate category. 10:45pm Jan 20, 2011 Unregistered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.41.223 (talk) 05:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

K-1 Fighters and Tournament Database "2002 K-1 introduces its World Max Series, which has a 70kg weight class, and the Dutch fighter Albert Kraus is crowned the first World Max Champion".

K-3 Grand Prix '95 Wikipedia Page "K-3 Grand Prix '95, also known as K-1 Legend 1995, was a kickboxing event promoted by the K-1 organization. It was the first, and so far only, K-3 final, featuring an elimination tournament ".

The facts presented suggests that in my opinion it should be categorized from instead of K-1 World MAX Champions to K-1 World MAX Preliminary / Other Tournament Champions. For example no tournament UFC Champions are listed in the same category of the actually UFC Champions category. This is the same situation, for to be listed as a World Max Champion you must have won that tournament and since Ivan has not done so he should be listed with the K-1 World MAX Preliminary / Other Tournament Champions. The World Max Championship may have replaced the K-3 Grand Prix but it’s not the same championship. Another example could be looked at, the UFC Super fight Championship which was replace by the Heavyweight Championship but not listed in the same category.

So in saying this I have moved Ivan and the K-3 Grand Prix event he participated in under the K-1 World MAX Preliminary / Other Tournament Champions category. 199.126.41.223 (talk) 03:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I have now reedited the page creating a K-3 World Grand Prix Champions category and removing Ivan from the K-1 World MAX Preliminary / Other Tournament Champions category. 199.126.41.223 (talk) 03:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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