Talk:List of Kent County Cricket Club players

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 79.73.27.126 in topic Name formats

Merge proposal

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Along the lines that other articles have been merged into lists, it seems appropriate to merge Bull (Kent cricketer) into this list. There is no biographical information about him: Carlaw says "Virtually nothing has so far come to light about this player". Any objections? Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

I've also added a suggestion that William James (cricketer) and Alfred Jones (Kent cricketer) be merged here as well - Carlaw hasn't been able to identify anything biographical. He speculates about possible identities. Given what we know about both, we can deal with the content here as a note. Blue Square Thing (talk) 06:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Name formats

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It appears that there is no standard way of presenting names on modern scorecards. Kent sources always use multiple initials, and in the post-2000 period at least, have never, as far as I can see, used dots or spaces as separators. Other sources use different ways of presenting names on scorecards. The BBC uses surnames only and a single initial, without a dot, if required (for example, here), CricInfo uses forename and surname (for example, here), CricketArchive uses the same format as Kent do (see here behind a paywall), as does Wisden online (see here), although in print may not do the same. So there doesn't seem to be a standard way of presenting names on scorecards, although it seems clear that contemporary Kent sources almost never use dots and rarely leave spaces between initials.

As a result I've adjusted the lead to reflect this, whilst returning to the previous version complete with narrower columns.

One potential solution to the recent disagreement would be to simply remove the sections after the colon each time. There's no pressing need to include this naming information and many of the lists of cricketers we have don't include this at all. I'll float in a version without this and then revert it so that others can check the appearance. This would have the added advantage of being able to reduce the column widths further. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:32, 7 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • Blue Square Thing. The supposed standard here is MOS:INITS but the idea of standards on this site is akin to the idea of standards in the Tory Party. The INITS style is still used by both Wisden and Playfair which should always take precedence over the online stuff. However, I only came here this afternoon to check a couple of names in the Lancashire list from which some wise editor removed all the scorecard nonsense in 2018. The result is a much improved structure. I suggest you restore your scorecard-free Kent version but take care to use the colwidth parameter – Lancashire has colwidth=30em, which works. I won't amend it myself because I'm very busy nowadays with a non-WP project and I have neither the time nor the inclination to get involved. But you can take this as a vote in support of your suggestion. I'll probably be around from time to time and I'll be happy to help with anything like this if time allows. 79.73.27.126 (talk) 15:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply