Talk:List of Kenya Airways destinations

Citation overkill

This article contains to many cites of the same source. For something simple like a timetable there is only one sources required, namely the schedule of the airline and there is no need to cite the source in every single line. Further we do not need future destinations, Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Best regards, --R.Schuster (talk) 12:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The first lines of Wikipedia:Citation_overkill say that there is not such a Wikipedia policy. Aside from that, your statements show that you are not familiar with the Aviation WikiProject guidelines. You can take a survey on articles of this type (ones that I have not edited, featured article Dragonair destinations is a good example), and will find that articles of airline destinations include future destinations, as well as current and past destinations. Furthermore, as each destination has its own "Refs" section, the exact place where a reference should be located to support the inclusion of that destination is precisely there. I'd like to hear from you that the article contents is inaccurate. If that was the case all the members of Wikipedia can fix the issues raised. Fortunately, neither this article nor the one for Kenya Airways is in that condition. I'm kindly removing the cleanup tag, as it is completely unnecessary here. Best wishes. --Jetstreamer (talk) 13:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I have reinserted the cleanup tag, as there is still a WP:Citation overkill. If you dare to remove the tag again without solving the problem it will be considered as vandalism. Just because other articles are in an awful condition this does not mean, that you have to vandalize KQ-articles as well. This article was pretty much OK before you start to "contribute" to it. Since you are new to Wikipedia, I assumed good faith so far, but you persist in ignoring basic Wikipedia guidelines. Further reading: WP:Wikipedia is not a travel guide, WP:Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --R.Schuster (talk) 11:25, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I have contributed to both articles expanding them, not vandalizing them. So far, all you've done with both articles (Kenya Airways and its destinations) is to criticize the effort made by others in expanding them. I don't think that going against your vision of the world is vandalism. The tag will be removed. Just the way you think the article needs cleanup I think it does not.--Jetstreamer (talk) 17:18, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request:

I've looked through a random selection of about twenty pages listed at Category:Lists of airline destinations, and while some articles are largely or wholly unreferenced (and therefore irrelevant for our purposes), only one of the ones that did include references used the style on this page. I personally prefer the simpler format used on most other pages, using a general reference for all the information, so that's what I'd recommend. But, equally, I think that accusations of vandalism - or that possible future edits will be "considered as vandalism" are a bit strong in this context. As for future destinations, WP:AVIATION has no specific policy on this for airlines that I can find, but it does permit their inclusion for airports, and it seems reasonable to extend that to airlines, if the claim can be substantiated with appropriate citations, and the date of launch of the service is included. This does not contradict WP:CRYSTAL so long as the citation source makes it evident that the event is "almost certain to take place" - in this case, an announcement that the airline will be running this service from a specified date (rather than, say, are planning to run such a service in a few years time) would seem to be sufficient.—Anaxial (talk) 21:35, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd agree on the future destinations; it's reasonable to mention plans for future destinations but put them in context, not in wikipedia's voice. Saying "Airline X announced plans to serve destination Y in year Z" isn't a WP:CRYSTAL violation, it's a factual statement. bobrayner (talk) 22:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Livingstone

Please note that I have reverted the unsourced addition of Livingstone as a future destination twice ([1], [2]) on the basis of WP:VERIFY. The reference supposed to back the addition up says nothing about dates, it only shows a map.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:43, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Archived references not used in the article

• "Kenya Airways' Dreamliner makes maiden flight to Paris". Standard Digital. 4 June 2014. Archived from the original on 28 June 2014.
• "Kenya Airways' Dreamliner makes maiden flight to Paris (page 2)". Archived from the original on 28 June 2014.
• "Airline News". 11 June 2014. Archived from the original on 11 June 2014.
• "Kenya Airways to focus on Asia, with new Beijing and Shanghai routes, as 787s and more 777s arrive". Centre for Aviation. 18 March 2014. Archived from the original on 19 March 2014. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)</ref>

• "World Airline Directory – Kenya Airways (page 90)". Flight International: 90 –&#32, 91. 27 March – 2 April 2001. Archived from the original on 18 May 2012.
• "World Airline Directory – Kenya Airways (page 91)". Flight International. Archived from the original on 18 May 2012.

• "Kenya Airways to Resume Zanzibar Service from June 2014". Airline Route. 10 February 2014. Archived 18 February 2014 at the Wayback Machine
• Okulo, Lola (12 March 2014). "Kenya: KQ to Fly to Nigeria's Capital City From June". AllAfrica.com. The Star. Archived from the original on 12 March 2014.
• "Airline Routes". Air Transport World. 20 March 2013. Archived from the original on 20 March 2013.
• "Kenya Airways: une nouvelle route vers la Zambie". Air Journal. 16 March 2013. Archived from the original on 19 March 2013.
• Duclos, François (2 April 2013). "Kenya Airways détaille son Nairobi – Abou Dhabi" (in French). Air Journal. Archived from the original on 2 April 2013. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
• "Airline Routes". Air Transport World. 26 March 2012. Archived from the original on 28 March 2012. Kenya Airways will launch 4X-weekly Nairobi-New Delhi 767-300 service May 15.
• "Kenya Airways to Start Direct Flights to New Delhi" (Press release). Kenya Airways. 15 March 2012. Archived from the original on 17 March 2012.</ref>

--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

israel

israel tel aviv service starts on december — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.106.152 (talk) 19:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

You may add the entry if a reliable source is provided.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

source is their website http://www.kenya-airways.com/Global/About_Kenya_Airways/News/Kenya_Airways_to_commence_direct_flights_to_Tel_Aviv/?dis=y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.106.152 (talk) 08:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

That source does not provide an exact date for the commencement.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Israels news papers reported December 2014 to be the start day. however all sources are Hebrew. flights will be with 737-800

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4570881,00.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.106.152 (talk) 18:36, 25 September 2014 (UTC) also all flights are registered with the ben gurion airport schedule http://www.iaa.gov.il/he-IL/airports/BenGurion/Pages/OnlineFlights.aspx flights numbers are KQ 371, KQ 370 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.106.152 (talk) 18:39, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

the info already appears in tlv airport http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Gurion_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.52.94 (talk) 12:27, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

first flight will be lunched on 9 of march 2015 according to www.iaa.gov.i — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.149.188 (talk) 12:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Recent reversion by Jellysandwich0

I've reverted these [3] [4] two edits on the basis of the article including historic information regarding destinations. In particular, the termination of services due to cost-cutting measures is worth noting. Please explain the rationale for the removal and why this should not be in the article. Thank you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

The user is determined to warring [5] and to communicating via edit summaries so I'll wait a week or so for more comments. If there are no oppositions I will reinstate the previous version of the article.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:36, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and reinstated the information per WP:SILENCE.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:25, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

The Information in This Article is Out of Date

Kenya Airways does not fly and has not flown to several of these destinations in for years. Their website indicates their route network which should be cited here is accurate: https://www.kenya-airways.com/kq-network/en/ not the old link from five years ago cited currently.

I can add this and change/edit all of the destination no longer actually flown to, since this significantly overstates their current reach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EastAfAm (talk • contribs) 19:04, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

You cannot use a source for the current network to support terminated destinations.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)