Talk:List of King of the Hill characters
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Spongy
editThe list at the bottom is called other RECURRING characters. Does Spongy really belong there, considering he is only in one episode? Just a thought. Ttc817 (talk) 19:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll take it out, maybe think of a replacement at some point.--T. Anthony (talk) 23:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I was just curious about that. If every one-off character gets his place on the character list, the list would have to be a LOT longer. Ttc817 (talk) 20:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- It was a fair question. People have a tendency to add one-off characters that might not be of any real significance. That's true of all these kinds of lists. If I were to add one-off characters someone like "Marie", in the episode that won an Emmy, or Nancy Gribble's mother would make more sense to me. I'm not even really sure Wesley Cherish is significant enough to be in it.--T. Anthony (talk) 10:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Totally agree with you. Semi-major characters who are one-offs (Nancy Gribble's mom, Luanne's father, etc,) I believe belong on here, but Spongy only appeared in the one episode, and in a minor role at that. That's my view on the issue. Ttc817 (talk) 17:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. Well now he's in the Series Finale. I don't know if that means he should be put back, but meh. I'm thinking I might add "Pops" later if so.--T. Anthony (talk) 00:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I haven't caught the finale yet, but if he's in there then he probably should be reinserted. And yeah, I agree that adding Pops is a good idea since he has more than one appearance. Besides, Pops had a somewhat major role in his two appearance. Ttc817 (talk) 19:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- I guess it was actually the episode right before the Series Finale. My guide implied the Finale was a one hour episode, but it was two half-hour eps. He was on the first of the two.--T. Anthony (talk) 01:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Title of the article
editIt seems to me that the title of the article is incorrect: shouldn't it be called List of minor characters in King of the Hill? ---Charles 05:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- You caught me before I was finished setting it up. --Chris Griswold 08:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- Aaahhh... ok. Sorry if I jumped to an incorrect conclusion. I look forward to seeing how it turns out. ---Charles 19:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. I was trying to clean up the main King of the Hill article, and so this was just one of the steps involved in that. --Chris Griswold 19:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- Good first step. ---Charles 06:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. I was trying to clean up the main King of the Hill article, and so this was just one of the steps involved in that. --Chris Griswold 19:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- Aaahhh... ok. Sorry if I jumped to an incorrect conclusion. I look forward to seeing how it turns out. ---Charles 19:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Formatting
editThis page needs pictures of the characters, as well as better formatting. The perfect design would be to copy this: List of recurring characters from The Simpsons Dmiles21 04:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- The format of this article needs to be fixed, it's written like a conversation more than a proper article. The section about Peggy has the phrase "By the way" in it. 69.29.238.62 (talk) 07:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Ted and Cindy Wasonasong
editThe article currently reads that the Wasonasongs are "affluent Laotian-American[s]." But in the episode "A Man Without a Country Club" Kahn Souphanousinphone makes it very clear that he, as a Laotian, cannot understand the conversation that Ted and Mr. Ho, the club's membership chair, are having because they are speaking to each other in Chinese. I take this for a sign that Ted is of Chinese descent and not just multilingual. Also, the Wasonasongs are not "friends" with the Souphanousinphones. The Souphanousinphones envy and resent the Wasonasongs, but Kahn and Minh act ingratiating in the hope of gaining social advancement via the Wasonasongs. The Wasonasongs cannot stand the Souphanousinphones. In "A Man Without a Country Club," Ted is clearly irritated by Kahn, whom he sees as unctuous. Poldy Bloom (talk) 00:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- When they were setting Connie up with Chane, in Naked Ambition, I'm pretty sure Minh referred to him as "the only Laotian boy in Arlen" or some such. In another episode Ted tries to get Khan to join his Laotian "liberation" army by judging him for being alienated from their shared Laotian roots. You're right though that that one episode seems to imply Ted is Chinese, but no other episode does.--T. Anthony (talk) 13:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I concur with both of you, it must be a writing glitch. That aside, I'm impressed with how well said both of your points are; your IQ's must be at least 20 points higher than my own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.42.16 (talk) 06:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Emily
editPrincipal Moss' fluorescent-vested student-assistant definitely makes enough appearances on the show to deserve a spot on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.169.137.32 (talk) 18:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Lucky
editI don't really feel like fixing it myself, but Lucky's hobby of cat-fisting is followed by his hobby of stumping, which inexplicably leads to an article about stumps. Stumping is another term for noodling, which is cat-fisting. 24.218.218.197 (talk) 07:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not in this case it isn't. In the episode where he mentions it "stumping" means actually looking for tree stumps. I think the idea is you can make something from their wood and that this makes them valuable. I have no idea if this actually exists as a hobby.--T. Anthony (talk) 01:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Merge description of the Hills (and Luanne) with this article?
editAnd get rid of that section on the main page altogether. Should we? ...Or, maybe put description of the main characters (The Hills, Luanne, and Hank's alleymates) on the show's main article and reserve this one for all other recurring characters and one-timers? Better yet, all of the main characters already have their own articles, so why not just provide their wikilinked names with a brief description of a sentence or two? - Jombage (talk) 13:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC) I agree. --Lovecherry (talk) 02:04, 4 September 2013 (UTC)lovecherry
Birth years
editAnd can we please get rid of the birth years? The show is on a floating timeline, plus giving characters years of birth gives the impression that the show is stuck in 1997 (Bobby's year is given as 1985, so that makes him 13 in 2008?). Plus most of the years given are accompanied by question marks, and that's an outright indication of speculation. -- Jombage (talk) 13:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, with the note that if Bobby was born in 1985, he would be 23 now if not for the floating timeline. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- I agree to remove birth years. They are not referenced. Whee does this info come from? It's not on the Fox website. Mjpresson (talk) 18:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Changes
editAdded reflist and ext links sections, added 2 cits. Removed noref tag, added inuse tag temp. Mjpresson (talk) 00:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Also would like to separate Hills/Platters. Mjpresson (talk) 00:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Divisions
editI added Wesley Cherish to the bottom of the list. I know he was only in one episode, but I feel that since his family just moved there, he has 6 kids, a wife and two of the kids and himself were used in the main plot of an episode that it deserves a mention here.
I was thinking about dividing it into more families? The Cherish family is one (although there may not be enough to add to it, since only 4 of the 6 kids were named) But what about Luanne and Lucky? Do their deserve their own section, as a separate family? Shouldn't Dale be with his family? I know he is in the main character section, but it's weird he's not mentioned in the Gribble family. Should the 'Others' section be divided into more categories? School both teachers and students, Strickland Propane then others. And what about alphabetical order by last name? first appearances and or last appearances? Tydamann (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- I would get rid of "Main characters" section and make it Hills, put Dale in Gribbles section, ect. Mjpresson (talk) 22:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- I also noticed no Bug Gribble, Dale's dad. Mjpresson (talk) 22:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Debby Grund
editDebby Grund appears in several episodes prior to her death in Season Four, but did she ever have any lines? And if so, who did the voice acting work? Sweetfreek (talk) 23:46, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not finding anything on her speaking before the two-parter. In the first seasons Buck, pretty consistently, did not discuss business with any of "the skirts" so I'm not sure any of them really spoke. To be honest even the other men at the company, like Enrique, seem to have said very little in the early seasons. (Joe Jack was, comparatively speaking, given somewhat more lines)--T. Anthony (talk) 11:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- I did find that in the second season episode with the "Junkie" Debby does "shush" Peggy, which angers Peggy. However I don't know if they gave anyone a credit for just going "shh."--T. Anthony (talk) 05:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yesterday I watched "Peggy's Pageant Fever" and the character does have two lines in that episode. She says something to Buck over the intercom about the check for the contest, he initially and wrongly assumes he'll be sponsoring Luanne, but I don't know if anyone is credited for the voice. (It wasn't Witherspoon though)--T. Anthony (talk) 05:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Wrong Placement
editLadybird Hill should not be an entire article about King of the Hill.
This topic was reached from /Ladybird_Hill
Some grammar needs to be cleaned up and contradictions in characters which do not explain the loss of continuity in the story —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.124.197 (talk) 06:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Fred Ebert
editSurely Cllr Fred Ebert deserves a page. He appears and he is mentioned a lot by Hank Hill, such as "He owes me a favour, I voted for him" and the like 84.71.186.73 (talk) 15:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- I added Fred Ebberd, spelling it that way as that's what the IMDB and TV.com pages say. Also "Ebert" I think might start with a hard "e" and the councilman's name doesn't.--T. Anthony (talk) 10:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Confirmed, it's spelled Fred Ebberd. You know from seeing him with a campaign sign during the parade in Season 5 Episode 6, "When Cotton comes marching home". Around the 14 minute mark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:283:4301:A062:706C:EF08:A500:25F9 (talk) 02:44, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Laoma
editShe actually was mentioned in The Witches of East Arlen, the episode right after she first appears. Bill is happy about their relationship but Bobby, after an initially positive prediction, indicates the tarot cards actually spell affliction and sorrow for him. Although it is true no specific reason for the break-up is ever mentioned.--T. Anthony (talk) 12:57, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Character Descriptions
editSome of the biographies on this page are filled with unnecessary points that come from opinion. Example (in the Dale Gribble section) "Of course he believes JFK was offed by someone in addition to Oswald - someone shooting from the grassy knoll!"
I'll change this one, but there are dozens of statements like this that need to be fixed. --.--ckolar612 (talk)
As a disclaimer, I am new to editing Wikipedia articles. However, I would like to add to Bobby Hill's section on this page. It says that citations are needed for his age, so I would like to add sources from IMDb and an article from TVLine that outlines the birthday episode. I could also add in the episode title in which he turns 13 in order to clarify that in the main section. SjKeith555 (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Jordan
editNear the end of the series (?), Bobby breaks up with Connie and finds a new girlfriend, named Jordan. They quickly become friends, and Hank accuses them of "dirty dancing," but they do not come together romantically until the end of the episode. There should be a mention of her, just not under "Recurring characters." The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 06:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Characters
editThe list is split into main characters, that is characters who are in virtually every episode, and other Hill and Platter characters, in other words those who only appear occasionally. First of all the distinction between these two is important and should not be removed. Next Cotton is in only a handful of episodes each season (and after his death he isn't in the show at all) which does not put him into the first category. As to the hidden note the end credits do not a)make a distinction as to main and lesser characters and b) "more importantly" do not list the characters names. Only the voice artists are listed. thus the hidden note makes no sense and has no reason for being there. MarnetteD | Talk 19:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Hank's intelligence
editOne of the things that struck me about the early episodes of "King of the Hill" was that Hank was an extremely intelligent person with a great deal of common sense. (Note that I, a Liberal, am sincerely saying this about a Conservative character.) He was often upset with other characters' stupid remarks (eg, the speed of gas in the human intestines), or inability to see the obvious. He seemed to have lost this good sense over time, and gradually became not-much-smarter than anyone else (though he kept his basic, decent values). Whether this is a valid observation, I don't know, but the writer ought to consider it, and add it if he/she agrees. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 22:13, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Octavio
editI believe the Octavio character is voiced by Mike Judge, but I know it's not Danny Trejo. Trejo voices Enrique, Hank's co-worker at Strickland Propane. I was not able to verify if Judge indeed voices Octavio, but this should be checked out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.35.203 (talk) 16:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Jody "Ray Roy" Strickland
editI don't believe that Ray Roy lives in Memphis, as the Tennessee Strickland Propane is said to be in Gatlinburg, which is in East Tennessee. I assume he was also just there for the convention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erictehundying (talk • contribs) 20:11, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Repetitive Sentance
editOne of the sentances in the Bobby Hill section says "Hank revealed" three times. Megabrownieboy (talk) 01:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Tone & Content
editSome of these are unnecessarily and pointlessly long, and written in a conversational, in-universe style. (Hank thinks basketball is fine, I tell you what...) I cut some stuff from the paragraph on Hank that just seemed extraneous. PurpleChez (talk) 02:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- A year and half later and it's still a problem. I'm about to take the pruning shears to this article... Matt Deres (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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Would like to recommend getting rid of "guest stars" section
editI find the whole section sensationalist. Also, I'm the one who originally wrote it, back when it was its own page and I had a different username. I regret it deeply. Could anyone please tell me how to go about requesting permission to delete it? Sorry to be up front about this; I'm somewhat inebriated and torn over this whole thing.--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Terri Clark
editIn the episode “Peggy’s Fan Fair” it says a Terri Clark plays herself but she does not play herself. She introduces herself as one of Randy Travis’s managers. 2600:1702:2A20:850:55A5:26FA:5A8B:EA5B (talk) 16:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)