Talk:List of LGBTQ people from Seattle

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Mysterymanblue in topic Inclusion of Josephine Hutchinson and Roberta Gregory

Inclusion of Josephine Hutchinson and Roberta Gregory

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I am unsure whether to include Josephine Hutchinson and Roberta Gregory on this page. Hutchinson had a long-term romantic relationship with another woman but never identified as LGBT. Reliable sources said she had a "lesbian affair" but declined to label her has lesbian, and it is likely, given the time, that she never openly identified as LGBT. Gregory is heavily involved with the LGBT community, but apparently chooses not to put a label to it; a cursory search did not reveal whether she considers herself to be LGBT. I get the feeling that we should probably only include individuals who openly identify as LGBT (for living people) or who reliable sources describe as LGBT. Therefore, I have not included the two in the list. However, I am open to other viewpoints.  Mysterymanblue  22:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

On second thought, I think it would be appropriate to include anyone who has expressed a non-heterosexual orientation given the expansive definition of LGBT. I would like to include Roberta Gregory, but I am unfortunately unable to verify the citation from her Wiki page because the link may have gone bad/is behind a paywall. You can find the link here. It is, as I write this, citation 19 in Gregory’s article, a volume of the North Bi Northwest newsletter. Any help would be appreciated.
I’ll note that the person who added this reference to Gregory’s article was apparently attending college in Florida at the time (according to their user page), so we shouldn’t need to find someone at Harvard to access the article. I also believe the publication should be available in various libraries/research databases, but I have had trouble finding it.  Mysterymanblue  08:51, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

What is "Seattle"

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Should Seattle suburbs be included? I'm thinking about including Carrie Brownstein from Redmond. (Edited to add) I just noticed she was born in Seattle, so went ahead and added. However figuring out the answer might help with other less clear cut biographies. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

I think in general these "List of people from x" pages should include metro areas, so it sounds like she should be included (in my opinion). However, we should be careful about people born in places who never really resided there. Per WP:COPPLACE, "The place of birth, although it may be significant from the perspective of local studies, is rarely defining from the perspective of an individual." and, by extension, birth place should not be used to categorize individuals.  Mysterymanblue  22:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I've also added Brandi Carlile who still lives in the exurbs AFAIK. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:22, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply