Talk:List of Portuguese Americans
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Removed-># Peter Polaco - Wrestler. Formerly "Portuguese man o' war" Aldo Montoya
editit was i that added this but now im unsure. i found a couple of wrestling sources that states he is not portuguese descended but that it was just a wrestling name. although ive also found sources stating that he is portuguese i will leave it out for now until i can be more sure and the evidence is more in favor that he is.
- Peter Polaco - Wrestler. Formerly "Portuguese man o' war" Aldo Montoya
Hanks
editHanks needs a better source. A huge listing of names[1] is not a very good source, and all it says, even if we were to believe it, is that he "has Portuguese ancestry", not that he is a Portuguese-American. Does anyone have a reliable source of some kind for Hanks that actually says he is Porguese-American or Portuguese? Not that he may or did have some kind of ancestor 200 years ago? Mad Jack 06:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sweetie, people often define their ancestry by some long-ago relation. This is why Maps_of_American_ancestries does not show more "Americans". I cannot find any online evidence just yet, but I have seen many print sources state that one of his grandmothers is from the Azores. That would make him one-quarter Portugese. --Nelson Ricardo 10:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hanks is certainly one-half Portuguese-American, not one-quarter, as both his maternal grandparents (and maternal great-grandparents, surnames: Frager/Fraga; Enos; Rose; Borge) are descended from families from Flores, Azores, or mainland Portugal. These families, including Fraga, de Fraga, Enos, Rose, Silveira, etc., are widespread in Pleasanton, Hayward, Fremont, Sunol, and throughout the East Bay. W. A. Reitwiesner's chart, http://www.wargs.com/other/hanks.html, notes the census, SSDI and gravesites at St. Augustine's Catholic Cemetery, which is on Sunol Rd in Pleasanton. While Reitwiesner notes "West Isle" - certainly this is Flores, where many Fraga/de Fraga immigrants to California came from. Hanks has many close and distant cousins in the Bay Area from these Portuguese-American families. Also significant is that his Portuguese-American families were well established in Alameda County for several generations and represent an important contribution to California and local history, ethnic makeup and involvement in Catholic church life. --Genealogyfacts (talk) 19:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, people often define their ancestry by long-ago relations, that is true. But is there a source that Hanks, not Wikipedia editors or shakey sources, defines himself that way? :) I am 99% that if he has any Portuguese ancestry, it is distant, and no reliable source, including Hanks himself, has called him a Portuguese-American. But - I am ready to be surprised. Mad Jack 16:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- I just posted a link at the front page of the article for the Tom Hanks Family Tree that proves he has Portuguese ancestry. Also, another site I came across also proves that Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln, are relatives, some even debate that Abraham Lincoln comes from Portuguese immigrant lineage...as well as Al Gore. I haven't found any sources YET that proves that both Lincoln and Gore are from Portuguese immigrant lineage.Nhl4hamilton 07:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Citations Needed
editWe will have to cite our sources. In about 1-weeks time I will continue of with job I started when I started to go through the entire list citing sources for the names. The people (Portuguese-Americans) that I am not able to find citations for will be removed from the article page and placed in another list here inside this discussion page. As soon as we can find citations for those names with the missing citations then we will be able to add them back to the front page of this article. Nhl4hamilton 20:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- For an example of this look at article: Portuguese Canadians and it's Discusion page. Nhl4hamilton 20:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Citation Templates
editWhen citing sources use Citation Templates. The Templates provide a standard format for citations and often cause a contributor not to forget key elements. For example, the cite web template requires, URL, ACCESSDATE and TITLE. There are additional fields, but it will error out if you don't atleast contribute those 3 elements. You may want to see WP:CITET. Nhl4hamilton 20:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
non-list material
editThe non-list content in this article should be merged into the Portuguese American article so this list will have have the same content as other such lists: it will be a list. Hmains 03:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Citations Needed
editWe will need to give citations of sources for our list, this is an Enclyclopedia and we need to cite sources. Below are the names I removed from the Front Page because they lack citation sources. As soon as we can cite a source for each of the following names below then we will be able to once again add these names to the front of the "List of Portuguese Americans" page. Below the names with citations needed: Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat 05:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
List of Portuguese Americans
Art/Architecture
- Joe Madureira, (1974- ), comic book artist and writer, best known for his work on Marvel Comics' Uncanny X-Men. [citation needed]
- Mark Texeira - comic book artist for Marvel Comics. [citation needed]
Film & television
- Kate Botello, TV host. [citation needed]
- Richard E. Cunha, (1922-2005) - Hawaiian-born cinematographer and film director. [citation needed]
- Jason Everhart - television host (mtv/nickelodeon). [citation needed]
- John Lone, (1952 - ), Hollywood actor (Portuguese on mother's side) [citation needed]
- Frank Silva, (1949-1995), Dresser and actor. [citation needed]
- Alana Soares, (1964- ), American model and actress, chosen as Playboy's Playmate of the Month in March, 1983. [citation needed]
Reality television
- Sandy Ferreira, contestant of The Apprentice 2 [citation needed]
Music
- Morgana King, (1930- ), Jazz singer who has recorded over thirty albums to date, actor. [citation needed]
- Teena Marie, (1956- ), American singer/songwriter/producer. [citation needed]
- Sean Paul (1975-), Jamaican-born rapper (Portuguese in father's side) [citation needed]
- John Reis, (1969- ), Rock musician, member of Rocket From The Crypt and Drive Like Jehu. [citation needed]
- Alan Silva, (1939- ), Jazz musician. [citation needed]
- Nikki Sixx, (1958- ), Bass / vocals, founding member of heavy metal group Mötley Crüe. (Portuguese father, Italian mother). [citation needed]
Radio Personalities
- Keri Rodrigues, (1979- ), American talk radio personality; the youngest female talk show host in the United States.[citation needed]
- Suzy Tavarez, (1975 - ), is an on-air radio personality for the Los Angeles-based radio station KIIS-FM.[citation needed]
Writers
- Ron Borges - sportswriter for the Boston Globe.[citation needed]
- Brannon Braga, (1965- ), Movie writer, Star Trek Generations, Paramount Pictures.[citation needed]
Business world
- James Pereira - Ex-CEO of Sun Microsystems.[citation needed]
Politics
- Jim Costa, (1952- ), Democratic politician from the U.S. state of California.[citation needed]
- Benjamin F. Jonas, (1834 – 1911), was a politician in Louisiana and an officer in the Confederate States Army during the American Civil War.[citation needed]
Religion
- George DeCosta, Roman Catholic priest of the Honolulu diocese.[citation needed]
- Moisés Silva, (1945 - ), Author and Biblical scholar.[citation needed]
Miscellaneous
- Joe "The Animal" Barboza, (? - 1976), East Boston mobster.[citation needed]
- Tony Rodriguez, was born in New Hyde Park, New York, mobster.[citation needed]
- Timothy J. Mello, (b. September 21, 1956), Fall River mobster.[citation needed]
Really stretching it
editSome of the people here are "Portuguese" if you want to stretch it and many of them being called Portuguese is just ridiculous. I'm not sure by what criteria they are considered Portuguese or Portuguese-American by people putting them in this list. Seems silly. Sometimes I think Portuguese people just want to claim as many as they can especially if it's someone famous so they can feel more special. Many could not claim Portuguese citizenship based on Portuguese nationality laws by having at least one Portuguese parent let alone by being 1/16 Portuguese or less. TTBOMK even 1/4 doesn't make it but it could be more inclusive for those of a former Portuguese colony.
I'm Portuguese & U.S. born with dual citizenship. They are strict about who is Portuguese and who isn't. When I moved to Portugal at 10 years old I remember men coming to the house saying I had to leave. My parents said I am Portuguese because they are and I get to stay. There was some back and forth but finally they went away and nothing came of it. I stayed and went to school there for five years because I had the right. Still, they tried to get rid of me.
Also my personal opinion from experience is that people less than one half have nothing recognizably Portuguese about them not even cultural knowledge, tastes, language or even a modicum of interest. It's more like "Yea I remember my Portuguese grandfather. He was funny and liked drinking wine but I couldn't understand a damn thing he'd say" or "Hey, I know how to say "ayera!" (alheira)" if anything at all.
If this article were truthful roughly 1/3 of the people listed in it would disappear, if not more. They're just American mutts.
Even many of the pork chops, born in the USA by two Portuguese parents who just got off the boat so to speak, are dummies who don't know much about anything Portuguese and act like a bunch of wiggers.
Portuguese American means Portuguese American and not Americans of some Portuguese ascendancy. Maybe "Americans who have some Portuguese ascendancy" could be another article.
I've heard there are genes or a gene unique in Portuguese and unique diseases and so on but are we using the one drop rule like they do for black people or what?
I think the list is kind of a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.12.239 (talk) 16:23, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Some of these people aren't Americans
editSean Paul is Jamaican, Nelly Furtado is Canadian, John Tavares is Canadian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheyCallMeTheEditor (talk • contribs) 21:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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