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How Episodes Should Be Displayed
editSince there is an edit war going on. I'll take the liberty in starting it. There is a dilemma in how the episdoes should be displayed. They are aired in 15 minute incraments but are separated. I say they should be listed like they are on the Phineas and Ferb episode page, where they separated to put the episodes as 1a, 1b, 2a, 3a, etc. in the compromise I came up with here. What are your thoughts? - Alec (talk) 20:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
The episodes are listed in Futon Critic [1] and TV Guide [2] on separate dates and both show 14 episodes aired as of January 24, 2014. The show runner says each is an episode https://twitter.com/CrackMcCraigen/status/404643752355954689. There is no reason to diverge from what the sources we have for this information consider an episode. Production info is in the production code column for keeping track of when episodes were produced and order. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- He didn't exactly say how many episodes there were at all, actually. He said there were 21 half hours, 3 of them being full length and the rest were 11 minutes. If you ask me, it's better to just count the episodes using the a/b method like nearly every other cartoon has before. Either we do that or change every other cartoon to count by 11 minute episodes instead of 22, or we could ask Craig McCracken for a more clear answer. Camcorn2 (talk) 23:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- But he did say how many episodes there were – his exact words were "We did 21 half hours of WOY season 1 for a total of 36 eleven minutes and 3 half hour episodes." Seems pretty clear to me that means 36 eleven-minute episodes and 3 half-hour episodes. What other articles do does not set a precedence for this article and this article does not set a precedence for other articles - articles stand alone unless there is some manual of style guideline to covers the issue. The a/b method is already reflected in the production codes. A separate column basically duplicating info that is in the production code column seems unnecessarily redundant to me. What purpose would that serve? I would be curious about any clarification McCracken might have on this issue. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:41, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Episodes in list should be in order first aired, not production code order, as is normal for list of episode articles. This is the order that Futon Critic and TV Guide give as well. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Air order should only be used if there is no a contradiction in assigned numbers. For example if officially there is episodes 1-3 and they air 3,1,2 you should still list them in order 1,2,3 because official numbering trumps out-of-order air dates.
- Although you could opt to represent both in a flippable chart like the Haruhi episode list does. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 10:07, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Original broadcast order should always be used for listing episodes, production codes give production order for those who want it. Lots of shows air episodes out of production order, we document what aired and in order aired. Episode numbers in this table are ordinals for this table and may or may not reflect any ordering in other lists of episodes. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Original air date
editThe show is changing original channels, but still remaining on Disney. I can't see any reason to keep track of the premiere date on the secondary channel? A break in the table at the change point and a re-titling of the columns at the break should be sufficient. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Split to season articles
editA WP:BOLD split was attempted to Wander Over Yonder (season 1). That split was done (incorrectly as well per WP:SPLIT and WP:CWW) and I undid it as I strongly think it is unnecessary. Redirect was reverted. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that it is premature to split at this time. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:55, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
11 minutes is toons not eps
editIt appears the current chart is making too big a deal about an s1 tweet and s2 tumbl from the creator here, taking it out of context.
- 24 Nov 2013 "We did 21 half hours of WOY season 1 for a total of 36 eleven minutes and 3 half hour episodes"
- 23 June 2014 "We were picked up for 22 half hours, 4 of which will be full 22 minute episodes that form one long story arc. The other 36 cartoons will be traditional 11 minutes that stand alone but also loosely relate to the longer arc."
What stands out to me here is "3 half hour episodes" and "22 minute episodes". You'll notice "episode" is used only in full-episode stories.
"36 eleven minutes" and "cartoons will be the traditional 11 minutes that stand alone" notably lack "episode" in them.
It's clear in the 2nd one that the noun here is "cartoon" not episode. A pair of two eleven-minute cartoons still only make 1 episode collectively.
Distributors clearly reflect this, they aren't counting them as different episodes even though the episodes have 2 stories with 2 titles in them. This can be seen here:
- "Wander Over Yonder". RogersOnDemand.Com. Archived from the original on 22 March 2015. Retrieved 10 March 2016.
Season 1
EP 2 The Picnic/The Fugitives Aired on 02/07/14
EP 3 The Good Deed/the Prisoner Aired on 02/06/14
EP 5 The Bad Guy/the Troll Aired on 02/05/14
EP 7 The Box/The Hat Aired on 02/04/14 - "Wander Over Yonder". RogersOnDemand.Com. Archived from the original on 10 March 2016. Retrieved 10 March 2016.
Season 2
EP 15 My Fair Hatey Aired on 02/23/16
EP 13 The Cartoon/The Bot Aired on 01/26/16
EP 14 The Family Reunion/The Rival Aired on 01/26/16
I think we should just match it up with the production codes like the distributors do. Separate lines for each story are fine if you want to number them "A" and "B" or something. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 10:18, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- All this was discussed 2 years ago and current article reflects that. I see no compelling reason to change anything no matter how some other locations have chosen to organize their listings. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Viewership is wrong
editThe ratings have been changed and they're probably all incorrect. I know for fact the current viewers listed on this page for Season 2 are incorrect because Wander never reached above a million viewers on Disney XD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.21.222 (talk) 05:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Shorts?
editIt says 11, and there are, in fact, 11 shorts, yet there are only 6 listed here (the first six). Just FYI. 88.104.231.198 (talk) 11:33, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Pilot
editA user who goes by Derps just recently found the 2011 pilot of Wander Over Yonder a month ago, which turns out to be the prototype version of the first episode, "The Greatest." Is it okay if I add any info about it? Chadalvarez2021 (talk) 00:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)