Talk:List of Yu-Gi-Oh! episodes/Archive 1
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Ummm
Do we really need two articles with basically the same information? Yu-Gi-Oh! episode titles --Geg 18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
opening and ending songs
I think someone should add the Yu-gi-oh opening and ending song info!!
Speaking of which, I've found that the Beverly Hills 90210 theme matches the GX 2nd Season open very well. That's all I'm going to say about it. 71.111.215.224 21:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Why don't we just add the album info for each? Tracks and such-like... Ggctuk 10:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Add episode numbers
I think someone should change the *(dot) to a # (1)
I would, but that would take too long. --Geg 21:31, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
About Specials
Since no one here really understands what a special is. A special is when they take two episodes and combine them into a single hour-long episode with a regular title for the first episode and a special title for the special as a whole. For example, the 160-161 special. The episode title for episode 160 is Haga and Ryuzaki - Double Duel Bet by the Souls, while the Special is "Rise up Yugi! Don't Lose, Jonouchi!" However, the Special title isn't an official title; it's basically a marketing gimmick created by the channel airing them and not the show itself. Kinda like KidsWB with their whole advertising stuff of changing names (ex. Official 4Kids title: "A Duel with Dartz"; KidsWB promotion title: "Beast of Atlantis"). My point here is that Special titles shouldn't be considered real episode titles since they're not official. Now, episodes 126, 161, and 168 may have official names. I'm gonna do a bit of research on that. However, until then, the real names of episodes 126, 161, and 168 are unknown by anyone currently working on this page. Besides, using the Special titles for the episodes we don't know the titles of wouldn't make any sense. The main example of that is episode 168. The special title for episodes 167-168 is "Fight! Kaiba! something something Sky Battle". But having this as the title of episode 168 makes no sense, as Kaiba's duel with Amelda ended in the previous episode. So just wait until I can get more information on those three episodes. They may have titles; they may not. --Geg 21:31, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Update'd: I've just recieved the correct information, and yes, those three episodes do have their own titles. It'll take me a little longer to get them translated. If you're wondering, the information comes from the official Japanese R2 DVDs, as opposed to the R0 subtitled Hong Kong bootleg DVDs which have those episodes untitled. These are coming from the official DVDs, meaning that whatever title they have listed for those three episodes is the episodes' official title. Big thanks to Deadly Messiah from Janime's forum for helping me with this. --Geg 15:05, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Update'd again: I got some translations, but they aren't complete. I've got the title for episode 126 (Poet of Hell - Hellpoemer) but I haven't translated the other two. One out of three ain't bad, I guess. I'll eventually get the other two translated. --Geg 15:45, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I've finally got the title of episode 168 translated (The Shadow of Dartz Creeps Near). Now the only one I don't have fully translated is episode 161. Geg 14:59, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
It's taken me months, but I've finally got all 3 names. And the name of a new one. The two new official titles being added are 160 (The Runaway Train Duel) and 161 (Power-Up Deck! Haga & Ryuzaki). Now we finally know all the official titles for the Japanese episodes. Geg 23:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Episode titles new look
Hello, I worked on the episode titles so it would look nicer, Geg tell me how you like the new why --> 207.200.24.241 Thanks
PS, its not finished yet so don't think of it as vandalism!!
- Hmmm... I dunno. It's interesting, but it kind of complicates things a bit too much. I'm not really sure. Geg 22:33, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
so is it going to be reverted... or just finish what i started??
- Hmm.. I guess you can go ahead and finish it. But if it gets done for the DM episodes, it'll have to be done for the Toei series and GX too. Geg 22:53, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
it's finished :)
- Holy shit, that's awesome. Great job. Still, just for the sake of unity, I'm going to take those "Season" things off. Geg 22:39, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
for episode 81 what does 発進 mean, i google translated it and it mean's Take's off and you’re saying that it means 'Takes to the Skies!' which I also translated and instead of '発進' it would be '空を取る' so which is right??
- I guess you're right. Go ahead and use "Takes Off" then.
- Why did you remove the English opening theme for Yu-Gi-OH GX?
More Japanese discussions
見参 means "meeting" or "seeing". There's no real direct translation of that to English, so it's kind of left open to interpretation. It's definitely not "Watch out!" though. As for だドン, that's a little harder to explain. Certain characters in GX, namely Chronos, Napoleon, and Kenzan have "phrases" that they insert at the end of a lot of their sentences. Chronos has "na no ne", Napoleon has "de aru", and Kenzan has "dadon" and "zaurasu", which can be translated as "don" and "saurus" after dinosaurs. While this may sound fine in Japanese (or not, I dunno), in English it would sound idiotic to add -don and -saurus at the end of everything you say. It's in the title to help give it the characteristic that it's being said by Kenzan. However, there's absolutely no way to translate that or carry across that feeling to English. Geg 23:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- OK Thanks グラントだドン :) (66.25.132.168 23:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC))
Here we go again
15. デュエルテニス (Dyuerutenisu) = Duel Tennis, not Tennis Duel
20. 恋する乙女は強いのよデッキ (Koisuru Otome ha Tsuyoi no yo Dekki)
恋する = to fall in love with; to love 乙女 = girl, maiden 強い = strong, powerful
The emphasis is on the fact that the Loving Maiden is strong, not that the deck is strong and has a beloved maiden in it.
34. 湯けむり旅情 (Yu Kemuri Ryojou)
湯 = hot water けむり = smoke, fumes (in other words, fumes from hot water. Steam) 旅情 = one's feelings while travelling (sentiments, travelling sentiments, etc)
36. ムコとり決闘 (Mukotori Kettou)
ムコとり = adopting a son-in-law into one's family 決闘 = duel, battle
41. 闘牛場 (Tougyuujou) literally "bullring"
42. ブラマジガール乱入 (Buramajigaaru Rannyuu)
乱入 = tresspassing, intruding
If it were meant to be translated as "Blamagigirl's Intrusion", it would be written as ブラマジガールの乱入 instead.
43. 明日香にセカンド・ラブ・チャンス!? (Asuka ni Sekando Rabu Chansu)
This one's pretty hard to decipher since the title is pretty asinine in the first place. There's no real good translation of it, but "A Second Love Chance for Asuka!?" definitely sounds better and makes more since that "Asuka in Second Love Chance!?"
47. サイバー・エンジェル-弁天- (Saibaa Enjeru Benten)
弁天 = Benten, Japanese Goddess of arts and wisdom. It's written as Benten in Alexis's page.
48. and 49. 2つの幻魔 (Tsu no Maboroshima)
幻 = phantom, vision, illusion 魔 = demon, devil
64. アニキへの熱き想いデュエル (Aniki he no Netsu ki Omoi Dyueru)
アニキ = Aniki (big brother), Sho and Kenzan's nickname for Judai へ = to, towards 熱 = hot, fevered 想い = feelings, thoughts, emotions
The emphasis is that duel has the passionate thoughts toward Judai, not they have passionate emotions because they want to duel Judai.
76. 合体 (Gattai) literally to unite, combine...
Wait, alliance is actually an accepted translation for that. Okay, Ultimate Alliance it stays.
84. 開幕 (Kaimaku) literally "raising the curtain". Has been translated as "Opens" in other episode titles as well like in 185.
Basically, Janime's site is not always right when translating episode titles. Whenever I or someone else changes the episode titles, it's usually due to a translation error that Janime or I made when we originally translated it. Li Jianliang noticed a lot of errors and fixed them. That's all. Geg 23:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
O.k fine... it just seems strange to me... Arena or Bullring
Sorry for the trouble...
(66.25.132.168 00:04, 3 March 2006 (UTC))
This is getting out of hand. I'm willing to wait for it all to calm down for a while before going back to re-correct the GX titles again (trying to correct every single title will have to wait until Spring Break). On the side note, I translate from the original Japanese titles (stopped visiting Janime a long time ago when I got annoyed by the mistranslations). I might include the secondary meaning to words, such as with 'bullring', within ( )s. Example: "The Dark Bullring (Dark Arena) Activates! Asuka vs. Titan"
-Li Jianliang
Everything's been pretty much worked out now. But I don't see how adding in things like "Dark Bullring (Dark Arena)" will really help the article. It'll probably just make things more confusing-looking. And yeah, I got annoyed by Janime's mistranslations too. Especially back when they would change something and convince nearly the entire YGO fanbase that that's what it really is (i.e. translating Doma as Doom and Amnael as Emmanuel). Also, does every title need correcting? I went through and retranslated the Toei Yu-Gi-Oh! and the Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters episodes myself(though I only really know how to read katakana and some hiragana. Most of everything else I do through an online translator (not Babelfish)) to check them. But if you feel there are mistakes, go ahead and fix them, though it's probably a good idea to post them in the talk page as well so they can discussed if they need to be. Geg 22:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Please discuss titles here... I went back and changed around a lot of minor things, and there are too many to explain all at once. I'll explain my translations as questions arise.
-Li Jianliang
- Most of the changes to the Toei Yu-Gi-Oh! were good. The GX ones kind of confused me. Mostly just the adding "The" in front of everything. And why change "Yugi" to "the Game"? Wouldn't that be referring to Yugi Mutou the character? Also, I removed the suffixes (Misawa-cchi and Elite-kun) mostly because it won't make any sense to people who don't understand Japanese. And "Shadow of the Seventh" to "Shadow of the Seventh One"... Eh, I dunno. Doesn't "Seventh" alone give basically the same meaning? And I think the whole "dadon" thing in episode 73 is just to characterize it as Kenzan's duel. And I'm pretty sure "alliance" is an acceptable translation for "gattai". Unless "Fusion" makes more sense in the context of the episode. Maybe waiting until the episode airs will help with that desicion. The most confusing one was "Alice in Disparland". I don't know where that translation could come from, so please elaborate on that. And for the final one, "The Duel's Flower Path" makes more sense in the context of the episode since it deals with Kibuki. Geg 22:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I felt that the first episode's title leaned toward the 'game' meaning instead of 'Yugi' (it's a silly pun @_@). The 'da' from 'da don' is a shortened form of 'desu'. 'Zetsubou no Kuni no Arisu' (絶望の国のアリス) is a pun on the Japanese title of the story 'Alice in Wonderland', which is 'Fushigi no Kuni no Arisu', therefore 'Zetsubou no Kuni no Arisu' becomes 'Alice in Despairland'. 'Hanamichi' means a passageway, usually one that passes by in front of an audience. The characters separately meaning 'flower' and 'path' simply further implies the key character in the episode.
-Li Jianliang
- Okay, the Alice thing makes more sense now. And I knew about Hanamichi (the original title we had up was "The Duel's Stage Entrance"), but it's very hard to figure out a good way to translate it. Geg 22:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Duel Monsters' episode titles corrected.
-Li Jianliang To Li Jianliang: If you want the issue resolved so much, why'd you delete the explainations? I have already posted the accurate translations of all the controversial episode titles, so quit vandalizing the pages. (66.25.132.168 18:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC))
- Fixing translations is not vandalizing. It's helping the page. Instead of blindly reverting it, I've gone through and looked over each one individually. If you still have any problems with it, look them up yourself. Besides, most of the titles we had here were more or less translated by myself, and I don't have a problem with Li Jianliang correcting my/Janime's mistakes. Geg 18:41, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Should we finish working on the romaji translations.... *next project* :) (206.77.151.18 23:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC))
- That may crowd up the list. Then again, it works for the Naruto one, so I dunno. Geg 23:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Listen
You're really starting to piss me off. I've said this 1000 times already, 闘牛場 = tougyuujou = "bullring". Do not change it. The katakana in these cases mean nothing. When translating these, the kanji trump the katakana, especially since the kanji appear on the actual page, since Wikipedia doesn't allow ruby characters. Geg 18:18, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Translations
J/E Dictionary Main Page
- 起死回生 (kishikaisei)
(n) revival of the dead; recovering from a hopeless situation; resuscitation; (P)
- Changed "Revival!" to "Revival of the Dead!". Geg 19:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Episode dates
No way that the last few episodes on the US yugioh were on in 2004, they are only finishing it now, and that's at least 2006! I've deleted those last few dates. 71.250.16.57 13:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Didn't you read the top of the Date row Original air date Original meaning the Japanese air date. (207.200.34.177 13:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC))
OP and ED images
According to Wikipedia's Fair use policy, #8, it states:
"The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose."
The screencaps of the OP and ED sequences are copyrighted so they fall under fair use. The images have to be used at a minimum, so they should only be used if they give enough information, and not just for making the place look pretty. I think these images do not give enough information and that they should be removed, which is why I removed them initially. I have asked for reasons on why some people keep putting them back in and I have not gotten a reply in quite a few days, so I'm afraid I have to assume you're just vandalising the article. - Zero1328 Talk? 05:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Online Episodes
I know a website that has a lot of the Yugioh episodes online for viewing, but I'm not sure if the copyright policy would go against posting a link to that kind of thing. Can anyone help clarify this for me? If you need to see the site in question, the link is:
Silent Mime 04:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Never mind, I double checked some things about the policy and think that it would be better not to post the link on the page. To keep the link off, I'm also going to remove it from my previous post. If it looks strange that's why. Silent Mime 01:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
SPLIT
Hi, I strongly think this articles needs to be splitted, what do you think? --Andersmusician VOTE 01:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- It should be completed. It has gone way too long without much needed attention. 66.217.42.180 04:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Once moed i will split it and update it--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 19:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: Page moved. Ucucha 15:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
List of Yu-Gi-Oh! media → List of Yu-Gi-Oh! episodes — Move as per other lists and per AMP MOS--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 19:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
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Zorc = Zork
I thought Zorc was spelled 'Zork'
That's a fan spelling. The official Viz spelling of the name is "Zorc". --Geg 29 June 2005 15:29 (UTC)
Assessment comment
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:List of Yu-Gi-Oh! episodes/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article is too long (appears a List to me), needs to be split --Andersmusician VOTE 22:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC) Gaping holes need to be filled (much of episode guide is missing); article should be split along lines of the various series; article should be renamed per WP:NAME. 66.217.42.180 05:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC) |
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