Talk:List of aircraft registration prefixes
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Overlap
editDoesn't this list overlap the list at aircraft registration, or is the intention to remove that list from that article? - Ahunt (talk) 20:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- The list in aircraft registration is just the current allocations and it describes the breakdown and uses of each allocation, this is meant to show all allocations (a lot have been allocated and no longer used and dont appear int aircraft registration) but not to give breakdowns for use (balloons/helicopters etc). I have a lot more "old" allocations to add when I get time but I am open to suggestions. MilborneOne (talk) 20:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the clarification. - Ahunt (talk) 21:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Canada vs. Portugal
editIf Canada's aircraft registrations are in the format C-xxxx -- where "x" can be any letter, as this article seems to suggest by giving "C" alone as Canada's prefix -- and Portugal's are in the format CS-xxx, could a conflicting situation arise in which, for example, the two countries have two planes registered C-SABC and CS-ABC respectively? Are there any formal restrictions to prevent the second letter of a Canadian reg from being S? If there are any such restrictions, I think Canada's entries in the table and on the graphical map should be changed to clarify that a Canadian C-Sxxx is not possible. 134.153.73.118 (talk) 21:41, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Can two aircraft registrations differ only based on the position of the hyphen, or not? 134.153.73.7 (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
- No, they are really callsigns so legally A-BCDE is the same as AB-CDE as the hyphen is not part of the spoken callsign. Convention is to break up the registration with a hyphen between the country and further letters but not if the registration has <COUNTRY><NUMBERS> like the United States and Japan. MilborneOne (talk) 17:29, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Pakistan vs. Palestine
editSomething has gone wrong in the formatting of the post-1928 list with the Pakistan and Palestine entries, with e.g. "Palestine" being listed as the prefix for the country of Pakistan. Someone with some experience in Wikipedia tables and the underlying facts should take a look at that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C6:2BD9:5500:6280:993C:C025:19D1 (talk) 11:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Done - I hope that is now correct? - Ahunt (talk) 13:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Uzbekistan
editDoes this prefix use a hyphen? I am seeing registration numbers online for Uzbekistan of the format UKxxxxx, not UK-xxxxx. Can someone please confirm? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.169.197.162 (talk) 01:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Normal practice is to use a hyphen for letters and not for numbers so the United States uses N747PA not N-747PA and likewise Japan use J01KZ not J-01KZ, as far as I can see Uzebkistan uses the same rule. MilborneOne (talk) 15:01, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
1947 Military Registrations
editAn edit I made to this article was removed with the comment "these are radio callsigns not the same as a registration". While this article is not the same as ITU prefix, should it not contain mention of the civil style VC-xxx and VG-xxx codes marked on RCAF and RCN aircraft from 1947 to 1951? Apparently their introduction was in response to an ICAO recommendation for military aircraft, adopted briefly by a handful of countries.
Cadet Pilot (talk) 01:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I remember seeing Belgian Sikorsky military helicopters of the series shown on the picture, used for rescue at sea in the Sixties when I was in high school (I was born in 1951). I think they were based at Koksijde_Air_Base. IIRC, they all displayed signs in the OT-ZKx series (like the one shown here, OT-ZKH). This is in keeping with Belgium's "1913 radio call letters" but not with either its "pre-1928" or "post-1928" aircraft registration prefixes. — Tonymec (talk) 21:20, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
- A lot of military operators use callsigns that were created from the ITU allocations and sometimes these get painted on aircraft, they are not "registrations" so really outside of the scope of the article. MilborneOne (talk) 21:59, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
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Revised based on an ICAO document
editRevised based on this ICAO document: https://www.icao.int/safety/airnavigation/NationalityMarks/NationalityMarks%20WEB%20en.pdf Vlk (talk) 21:36, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
United Kingdom: 2
editHi. The UK also has the allocation '2' (besides 'G') if, it seems, the aircraft is registered via 2-REG, the Guernsey aircraft register. See the Wiki page for 2-REG. (For background, the UK is allocated 2AA-2ZZ for callsigns from the ITU https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-R/terrestrial/fmd/Pages/call_sign_series.aspx. I am not sure if 'M' is used for aircraft registrations as the UK has MAA-MZZ.) Longfinal (talk) 21:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is not clear to me what you mean to ask or question. But do be aware that the Channel Islands are not part of the UK, they are Crown Dependencies. Jan olieslagers (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Retired post-1928 allocations
editWe have sections for current post-1928 and pre-1928 allocations, but no section for post-1928 allocations that have since been retired, such as "CCCP-" for the Soviet Union. Would anyone be opposed to adding a list of retired post-1928 allocations? If not, I'll begin such a list in my sandbox and move it here once it's ready. - ZLEA T\C 16:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Cyprus
editThe list mentions Cyprus as having 5B-DAA till 5B-DZZ but I have some misgivings. Would the island really be limited to 26x26 registrations? Also, ASN recently mentions an accident with a Lancair registered 5B-HBZ. Cfr. https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/406801 Quid? Jan olieslagers (talk) 19:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- The cited source says "5B", so I'm not sure where "5B-D" came from. I've fixed it. - ZLEA T\C 19:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wow that's quick. Many thanks! Jan olieslagers (talk) 20:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Post-1948 Palestine
editAfter digging through this article's history, I found that the alleged allocations of the prefixes "SU-Y" and "E4" were added by Enthusiast01 in this table overhaul in 2016. Most of the table was unsourced at the time, including the "SU-Y" and "E4" rows. To this day, the post-1948 Palestinian prefixes remain unsourced, and there is no mention of Palestine or any of these alleged prefix allocations in the official ICAO list of national marks. Given the lack of a current or (as far as I'm aware) historical civil aviation authority in Palestine, the allocation of "E4" is highly improbable. That said, there are images of Palestinian Airlines aircraft using the prefix "SU-Y", as well as several other foreign registrations. However, I have not seen a single reliable source claim that Egypt reserved "SU-Y" for Palestinian aircraft. Unless reliable sources can be found confirming the allocation of these prefixes, it would probably be best to remove them. - ZLEA T\C 05:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the prefixes from the list until reliable sources can be found. - ZLEA T\C 19:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)