Talk:List of authors and works on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum
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editCould someone, please, check the entry on Hobbes? I just happened to read it and it seems plain wrong. 'De Cive' was banned in 1654, 'Leviathan' in 1703 and 1709. To the best of my knowledge there was no condemnation in 1649. Correct dates can be found, e.g., in Noel Malcolm, Aspects of Hobbes (OUP 2002). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16B8:AD4A:8800:14DD:6DDC:D1A8:A7E5 (talk) 09:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Floating sentence on magazine
editI've just removed the following sentence from the intro of the article:
- In 1926, the Action Française magazine, espousing far-right French causes, was put on the Index in the edition of 1948.
Later additons
editThe last edition was 1948 yet we see a couple of items added after this. Can this be clarified? Rich Farmbrough, 03:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC).
Mary Faustina Kowalska's inclusion?
editDue to the removal of information on this and other articles by User:The Divine Mercy Researcher about whether Mary Faustina Kowalska's writings were ever included on the Index, it seems to me that this is worth some thought and discussion.
Although I can find many similar internet sources which state that Faustina's writings were at least temporarily placed on the Index I would not consider any of these sources to be reliable ones. The only reliable sources say that her writings were temporarily banned but nothing about them being on the Index.
So I am left wondering whether Faustina ought to be included in this article when the evidence either way is not too convincing. Anglicanus (talk) 11:17, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Saint Faustina was Never on the Index of Forbidden Books.
- It was a myth on unreliable websites.
- I agree with you that none of these websites are reliable ones.
- I propose deleting the inaccuracies from this and the other articles. The Divine Mercy Researcher (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- You may well be right but on the currently available evidence I don't think that we can say with complete certainty that she was never on the Index. Because of possible WP:COI and WP:SPA issues I don't think that it's appropriate that you should initiate any such deletion of information at present. I am open to deleting such information once I've had the chance to do more research but it would be good if some other editors could comment on these matters first. Anglicanus (talk) 03:20, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- The Holy Office issued a simple notification (AAS 1959, p. 271) that prohibited circulation of images and writings that presented devotion to Divine Mercy in the forms proposed by Sister Faustina ("doversi proibire la diffusione delle immagini e degli scritti che presentano la devozione della Divina Misericordia nelle forme proposte dalla medesima Suor Faustina") and that left to the good sense of the Bishops the task of removing any images of that kind that were on display for worship. It said nothing of the Index.
- You may well be right but on the currently available evidence I don't think that we can say with complete certainty that she was never on the Index. Because of possible WP:COI and WP:SPA issues I don't think that it's appropriate that you should initiate any such deletion of information at present. I am open to deleting such information once I've had the chance to do more research but it would be good if some other editors could comment on these matters first. Anglicanus (talk) 03:20, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- Compare that with the more solemnly formulated decree (AAS 1960, p. 60), under the heading "Proscription of Books" ("Proscriptio librorum"), published with the approval and on the instructions of the Pope ("adprobavit et publicari iussit"), that explicitly states that the Holy Office condemned and had inserted into the Index ("damnarunt et in Indicem librorum prohibitorum inserendum mandarunt") the four-volume edition of the Poem of the Man-God.
- In its 1959 notification, the Holy Office didn't say it was inserting any specific work by Faustina into the Index. It didn't say it was inserting into the Index any work by anybody. The most that could be put in Wikipedia would be that certain people (who would have to be cited) interpreted the Holy Office's notification as somehow implying (though not stating) that it had inserted Faustina's diary into the Index. Esoglou (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
- This is an old thread, but I'll ask anyway. Is a complete list of The Index available, either by year, or by additions and removals for each year, until its abolition in 1966? Arkenstrone (talk) 02:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- In its 1959 notification, the Holy Office didn't say it was inserting any specific work by Faustina into the Index. It didn't say it was inserting into the Index any work by anybody. The most that could be put in Wikipedia would be that certain people (who would have to be cited) interpreted the Holy Office's notification as somehow implying (though not stating) that it had inserted Faustina's diary into the Index. Esoglou (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Whole list of writers ?
editAre Nietzsche, Freud, Jung, Hitler... included ? Does some one have whole list of works and writers ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.43.179.208 (talk) 20:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Deleting the template linking to the Beacon database
editMy heartiest congratulations on the decision to delete the Beacon template. The new page without the template is markedly more beautiful much bigger than it was before, but I am concerned about the fragility of this solution. As the (thankfully now deleted) template clearly used to say: "Using such a wrapper helps isolate Wikipedia's links from changes in website addresses, structures and syntax."
What happens if the structure of the Beacon site changes .. who will repair all of the broken links? Just curious ... Scarabocchio (talk) 16:02, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
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Last Temptation of Christ - date error?
editHow could The Last Temptation of Christ, published in 1955, have been banned in 1953? Richferrara (talk) 18:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Time-travel, that's how. Duhhh!
- (I didn't even know it was a book until I read you comment. Just saw the movie version.)
- Seriously, though, I thought the last edition was supposed be in 1948, so I find the post- '48 entries somewhat troubling.
- Not as troubling as the fact that Mein Kampf isn't on the list, or as troubling as the fact that it not being on the list isn't mentioned at all in this and related articles. Out of sight, out of your freakin minds, it seems. I hate to be that guy, but this is a HUGE elephant in the room; and not just here.. the elephants giant paw prints are all over some of JP2's encyclicals.. like Fides et Ratio, etc. I guess somebody should break out that time-travel machine. Failing that, it would be great to see the matter addressed in a single explicit sentence, rather than within 10 o 20 implicit suggestions. Know Einstein (talk) 18:42, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Complete List of Index Librorum Prohibitorum
editIs a complete list of The Index available, either by year, or by additions and removals for each year, until its abolition in 1966? Arkenstrone (talk) 03:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)