Talk:List of aviation, avionics, aerospace and aeronautical abbreviations

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Moved from Some aeronautical abbreviations because the new title better conforms to WP naming conventions. --Theo (Talk) 09:33, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Should title read "...aeronautical abbreviations and acronyms" since most items in the list are acronyms? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.176 (talk) 13:46, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree that "acronyms" should be added in the title. Indeed, strictly speaking most of the items in this page are acronyms and not abbreviations. --JGG13 (talk) 09:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup

Added {{cleanup}} to the page as I noticed it was in pretty bad condition, eg. disambig links and wrong links, etc. --Jeremy 01:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Relevance

As a pilot in the US many of these abbreviations/ terms aren't used here at all and even elsewhere are dated

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The result of the debate was Move. Was done by someone else. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

List of aeronautical abbreviations → List of aviation, aerospace and aeronautical abbreviations – The page has abbrevs from all those areas of aviation already, and this will bring it in line with its "sister page", List of aviation, aerospace and aeronautical terms.

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ICO

Waht means ICO ? (mixture in ICO position)--84.137.56.89 19:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be "Idle Cut-Off". Nope? --marsian 14:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:CAPS

Many of the entries in this list are in all caps, but should not be per WP:CAPS. Dhaluza 22:45, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The relevant page of the Manual of Style (WP:Manual of Style/Capital letters) begins: "Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization." The key here is "unnecessary" – thus capitalization that is required by a specific stylistic guideline is not to be avoided. Many acronyms are correctly styled as all caps; see WP:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Acronyms just above the section on All caps. Piperh (talk) 09:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Very poor

This list is very poor. Have a look at the german version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterlee0423 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

uncomplete

This list is largely uncompleted and somwhere not consistent. You mention E-LSA but nowhere LSA for exmple ? It should be to deliver all basic expressions belonging world's ICAO code --92.106.150.25 (talk) 06:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Complete page re-design project. Help needed!!

Hi,

I wish to make this page the most complete abbreviation list available. The German version is a good example and will be a good source since it has many English abbreviations. My plan, inspired by the German version, is to have a table at the beginning with links to all the letters sorted to the second degree. By that I mean AA, AB, AC, etc. Troubling is that I don't know how to create that architecture with all the internal links. Help needed. I am a relatively new Wikipedian, mostly familiar with visual editing.

Any help appreciated

Denis Ranque Denis17.ranque (talk) Denis17.ranque (talk) 12:58, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

There is another toc template Template:Horizontal TOC which could be tweaked rather than create one by hand, although I dont think it would be that difficult to do just a bit fiddly. MilborneOne (talk) 13:57, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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Space abbreviations

Does "aerospace abbreviations" include "space abbreviations"? I mean, do space-only terms belong in this list? I have noticed there are not space-only terms in this list (I do not know why) and I would like to include some of them, if this is really the list where they should be... (I did not find any space-specific list somewhere else in wikipedia). What do you think?

Some examples of space-only terms:

• Orbits: LEO, MEO, GEO, GTO, HEO, SSO...

• Agencies/organizations: NASA, JPL, ULA, ESA, CNES, ASI, DLR, JAXA, ISRO, CNSA, CASC, CAST...

• Systems/vehicles/engineering: AOCS, ECLSS, S/C, SCT, ISS, SLS, STS, SSME, ATV, HTV, JWST, TDRS, EDRS, ECSS, PSLV, GSLV, SSLV, SSTO, IOC...

--JGG13 (talk) 08:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @JGG13:, I think that would make this list too long and uncomfortable to navigate (Template:Very long). So far, the aviation, aerospace, aeronautical and avionics abbreviations are so interrelated and interconnected that they overlap too much to have separate lists, but spaceflight seems to be - at least to me - a rather separate domain with many purposes, circumstances and technologies that are different from flight within the Earth's atmosphere. I think it's better to reserve a special list for things that only apply to spacecraft and spaceflight, and have that list and this one refer to each other for additional information. Perhaps it's a good idea to expand the List of spacecraft prefixes with the orbits, agencies, and systems/vehicles/engineering acronyms you've listed here? Perhaps this requires a different title, but I think this is the appropriate place for the information you'd like to list. :) Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:04, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose to merge Acronyms and abbreviations in avionics into List of aviation, aerospace and aeronautical abbreviations. They are essentially the same, but the latter is more extensive and encompassing than the former, has more references and is linked to more interwikis. No one else seems to have suggested this merger before, so here I am. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 18:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I totally agree with your merger proposal. I think you should do it yourself, if you feel motivated enough and nobody speaks out against it after some days... JGG13 (talk) 18:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. It's two days later now, I think nobody is going to object to the merger, so I'm going to proceed and see if I can do it myself. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Courage!! And if you could please answer to my comment immediately above yours ("Space abbreviations") I would appreciate it! I posted it two months ago and it seems nobody cares... JGG13 (talk) 22:19, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! It's quite a tedious task, so I'm doing it in stages (just finished A and B). I opted to use ¹ to indicate some abbreviations are homonyms, which could otherwise lead to confusion. I also noticed that some abbreviations use a forward slash /, but synonyms do not, e.g. A/P and AP can both mean 'autopilot'. Normally we would place punctuation before the A in alphabetical orders, but in this case it could lead the same term to be listed twice, the one without a slash much lower down in the list. I don't think that's helpful, and propose to ignore the slash for alphabetical purposes. Also, should we have separate entries for each different spelling of the same term, or will to suffice to note alternatives in the Notes section? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Merger completed. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:49, 28 June 2021 (UTC)