Talk:List of bays of the Orkney Islands

Qualification for entry

• Most geographical list articles of this type state the qualifications for inclusion in the list: for example minimum area or minimum population. This ensures that the list is consistent, and also helps to avoid disputes about what should be included and what should be omitted. In my opinion, stating the qualification for inclusion would improve this article.

• I note that in a couple of places "Nearest town or village" has now replaced "Nearest town". Would it be useful to make this change consistently throughout the article? (I would point out that some of the places listed do not even merit the term "village". In some cases the map shows just three or four buildings.)

• Is it helpful to show red links for non-notable places which are never going to have their own article?

• A map of the Orkney islands, showing the locations of the various islands, would be useful.

• The heading "Notes" could perhaps change to "Notes and image", or perhaps there could be separate columns for notes and images.

Ehrenkater (talk) 11:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Ehrenkater: I saw your changes and reverted and then reverted back when I looked at them. Taking each point in turn:

• Yes I know. It was decided at the beginning about 3-4 years ago that due to the numbers involved it would be best to put them all in until each one was addressed and then pull it, if it was non-notable. They are geographic features and such should get even a very small article but there is a probably a good few or even dozens that are virually unknown. On a "A point of inclusion", I would assume if if each one is referenced correctly that would address it.
• A change was requested to change to nearest village as they was few towns up there.
• Yes, I intend to create articles for every one of them assuming they are notable.
• Yip, If you get a good map, it would be great. I'm planning to get proper maps made of the 5 areas covered, if possible. Its quite a big task so it might be some time There are completely different in each article and it would be nice to have a complete set. At the time when I created the article I couldn't find a proper island map.
• On Notes. I was trying to decide at the time whether to put in another field to take images. The ones that are there are just tests to see how much work was involved. I would like an image for each, ideally. So another field is needed.

scope_creepTalk 11:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Hoy

@Ehrenkater: How do you know there is a "Large unnamed bay east of Tor Ness". All these entries have been taken from Ordnance Survey data and are defined as a bay. I've never came across an unanamed bay. scope_creep^Talk 17:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

That's an easy one to answer. By looking at the OS map. This shows that there is a clear indentation in the coast encompassing around 2 km² of water (which is considerably more than some of the smaller bays listed). It may or may not have a name locally, but I haven't researched that. (I used the word "large" in a relative sense, of course.) ---Ehrenkater (talk) 17:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Indentations or particular shapes in the maps doesn't make a bay. A bay is legally defined by the Ordanance Survey and on top of that there is no evidence for it. scope_creep^Talk 17:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)