Talk:List of churches in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit

NOTE re attribution

The basic structure for, and many entries on, this list was split in April 2020 from a list previously contained at Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit. For details on attribution and contributions to the list, please see that articles history. Cbl62 (talk) 06:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

coordinates work how?

I don't get how coordinates are provided, to display, there are none in edit mode. Hidden somehow? Current-at-the-moment mistake in coordinates for Sacred Heart Major Seminary, which in "map of all coordinates" displays far away. Its coordinates in its own article place it in Detroit. I would just fix it but can't find how.

Also, "what links here" at the seminary page brings up National Register of Historic Places listings in Wayne County, Michigan, but I can't find the seminary there. What is going on?

Also I like to include "source:NRIS2013a" or "source:Doncram" or other attribution of source in coordinates, by the way. --Doncram (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

@Doncram: The coordinates were simply copied from the pre-existing list. If you could set the existing coordinates straight (or at least a few of them), I can work to fill in the others once I have a good model to work from. Also, what do you think of the existing column structure? I though it was a bit complex with multiple columns, but left it as is. Cbl62 (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't know what was going on before, maybe my browser was garbled. I see now your edit "rmv incorrect coordinates for Sacred Heart Seminary", which removed:
<br/><small>{{coord|42|22|27|N|86|6|41|W|name=Sacred Heart Major Seminary}}</small>
Yeah there was a typo or something because the longitude value is off by 3 degrees (takes it across the state). I just went to the Sacred Heart Major Seminary page and clicked on its coordinates and drilled in, using Google maps, to see the location. Actually I find that is in the parking lot in front of the building shown in the picture in the article. Okay, I am choosing to take new coordinates pointing exactly at the center of the building (using right-click and "what's here" to see the coords within Google maps) and I copy-paste them in here, and then compose:
<br><small>{{coord|42.374919|-83.111483|source:Doncram|name=Sacred Heart Major Seminary}}</small>

which i will put into this article right now. And I will put these slightly improved coordinates into the Sacred Heart Major Seminary article, too.

The usage of "source:" is not a big deal, can be skipped. But what's going on here: here I will record "source:Doncram" into the {{coord}} usage to take responsibility for / claim credit for me now being the source. Only a few NRHP editors are doing likewise, so far, but in the future I plan/hope for there to be bot reporting of counts by source, and for a bot to calculate distance between location of coordinates for Sacred Heart in its own article vs. coordinates for Sacred Heart Major Seminary in the NRHP county list-article. There currently do exist a lot of discrepancies where an editor made a correction/improved upon the coordinates given in NRIS (i.e. from the "Elkman NRHP infobox generator") in one article but not the other. A bot in the future can rank discrepancies in order to target them for fixing. By the way, in general the list-article values are usually better because gross errors were revealed in "map of all coordinates" there, and were fixed. And "Doncram" or "PropNowMeOw"(?) or any specific named editor is a better quality source than is "NRIS2013a". Anyhow, everywhere, now, if i put in coordinates I try to identify the source, to help in future coordinates improvement efforts. --Doncram (talk) 01:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh i see there were coordinates in Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit, by 2012 version i just checked. About what columns should be used, I am not sure about those. Two columns for architecture, style and architect? For many parish RC churches neither will be available, tho i guess that is okay. I like that it doesn't have a separate "Sources" column, and that inline citations are used within the descriptions. If there is some type of standard official source like a Diocese webpage for each church, which is source for name and address and such, and which should appear for each article, and could be in a "Sources" column, well, I would rather it be attached to the name of the site, say. Whatever. --Doncram (talk) 01:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Former church list

I found a list of former churches which may help: https://info.aod.org/hc/en-us/articles/360037640274-Closed-Parishes WhisperToMe (talk) 06:52, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Will try to integrate this information. Cbl62 (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2020 (UTC)