Talk:List of climate change books
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Considerations related to possible deletion
editI started "List of environmental books", and I have been a major contributor to it. When I first planned to start this article, I was planning to remove the copied entries from the older article afterwards. As I thought about the matter some more, I had the idea of keeping the copied entries in the larger article (for advantages such as sorting by year[s], to see on one page the chronological relationships between different books on different themes, including climate change). Also, I decided to refine the information in the column "Theme(s) and subtheme(s)" on the newer article: they are all about climate change, so I can avoid redundancy and provide more specific themes and subthemes in cases where the articles make that possible. (I suspect that some articles might not have enough information for the themes and subthemes to be more specific.)
—Wavelength (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Suggestions
editHi Wavelength, Thanks for this; looks like it will be a useful article. A few suggestions for making it even more useful:
- Move Author(s) to first column (col. 1), followed by Year(s) (col. 2)
- Change Author(s) entries to family name first, for alphabetical sorting
- Keep sortability in mind for Year(s) column
Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments.
- I listed authors in the first column of "List of American non-fiction environmental writers", because the list is primarily about the writers. I listed books in the first column of "List of climate change books", because the list is primarily about the books. (Authors are sometimes mentioned before books in lists of references.)
- I can encode the names of the authors so that they will be sorted by surname but still presented with first names first. (I used that method for "User:Wavelength/About science/Creation believers".) However, I mentioned the UNEP as the author of Atlas of Our Changing Environment.
- I can re-arrange the year information for the "Ten Technologies" books: "2008 (first edition); 2009 (second edition)".
- —Wavelength (talk) 18:13, 28 May 2014 (UTC) and 18:22, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- You're welcome! Thanks for your reply, which helps me understand your approach. My personal preference, even for lists of books, would be to use standard reference format: Last name, First name.| date | Title |Notes|, etc. But maybe that's just me... :-) Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 21:52, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
A couple more suggestions for further developing/ improving this article:
- Consider adding an ISBN column
- Provide reliable sources to substantiate the list, e.g. review essays on the topic
Thanks & Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:54, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
References
editThis archived discussion about references might be useful in regard to this list article.
- User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 19#References for list articles (September 2014)
Proposed merge into climate change in popular culture
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved.Arcahaeoindris (talk) 23:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't see why this page couldn't be merged into a subsection of Climate change in popular culture. The content is more or less the same. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 13:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- I would rather we minimize the list effect going on in the non-fiction on Climate change in popular culture and maintain the non-fiction list here. For novels, I think we need to think more carefully -- since climate fiction has become a whole genre -- and its increasingly hard not to write a contemporary-set or near future literary fiction without climate change -- so the potential for the list is astronomical.Sadads (talk) 12:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.