Talk:List of compositions by Camille Saint-Saëns

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Wolfgang Kaul in topic Missing piece:

carnaval des animaux is missing in the list by instrumentation.

The Oboe Sonata is missing in the list by instrumentation. 89.0.14.168 (talk) 11:36, 30 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Parysatis

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This work is among his non opus numbered catagory. I'm fascinated with this work which accompanied the drama written by Mme. Jane Dieulafoy.

Ave Marias

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Camille Saint-Saens has written at least 6 Ave Marias that I have documentation of. There is only one listed so far (Op. 145). See: http://www.avemariasongs.org/ave1/S.htm Years are respectively: 1865 - 1880 - 1893 - 1900 - 1914 - last one undetermined. Geert Cuypers - www.avemariasongs.org

Are you sure one of them isn't just split into a soprano and a tenor version? My own list has five: In Bb for soprano, E for baritone, A for two altos, A for soprano OR tenor, and one for chorus without a key listed (Op. 145). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 00:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Lists of movements

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Duly noted from the edits — I removed a few lists of movements, mostly from the sacred works (Mass, Requiem, etc) because they probably don't need to be shown here. If and when those works get their own articles it will go there. Meanwhile I left the lists of movements for suites and for sets, like the piano etudes or organ improvisations. Is this correct? I can't seem to find a rubric for whether sublists like these should be included or when they should be omitted. User:Dfdunham (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

I think for the most part, unless the piece is well known as a separate movement (such as the march Millitaire Francaise) there's no reason to list them in the big list here. This is, however, completely different from items /published/ as collections of pieces, as you suggest. The song and piano opuses for the most part were conceived as separate pieces (this is true for most romantic composers) and published together in similar themes. Not always true...but enough that they are worth keeping the individuals. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:17, 28 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
The mass movements are sometimes interesting insofar as they include things like an elevation motet (O Salutaris) besides the expected items from the Ordinary, and (being the one who bothered with typing the song titles) I of course second Melodia's motion. Sparafucil (talk) 03:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Wedding Cake Composition Name

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In some sources I see "Caprice-valse" used in the name of this piece, in other sources is see "Valse-caprice". Normally in cases of various titles I can discern a useage that is more common than others, but in this case it seems evenly split. Any ideas on how to get a definitive answer? Are both equally valid? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.11.85.188 (talk) 18:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Early Durand publications (1886, 1888) list the title as Wedding Cake. Caprice-valse pour piano, Op. 76. arr. pour piano à 4 mains par A. Benfeld, Paris, Durand & Schoenewerk. Hrdinský 19:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Piano quartet WoO ("R 107")

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"Quatour en mi bémol majeur pour piano et cordes" - mi majeur, actually (E major), from all I think I know about it anyway. Haven't seen the score (which was published posthumously and also far too recently to be public domain as, for instance, the Op.41 piano quartet in B was) but - well, ... almost sure that it's in E, not E. It's referred to as being in E major in several Saint-Saëns bios over the years, and, I think, in Teller-Ratner also (in her very useful (especially for compiling pages like this one ;) ), standard and very comprehensive reference on Saint-Saëns' instrumental music.) Anyone who's either got a copy of the recording that came out some while back (1993, on Arion) of both his piano quartets and wants to just use that for comparison, or has a copy of the score/parts (as edited by the same Sabina Teller Ratner, published in 1992) could check ?... Schissel | Sound the Note! 03:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I think you are right: see for example following recording: http://www.mdg.de/pdf/1519e.pdf. Wikispaghetti (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Unfinished symphony

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There is an unfinished symphony- 18 pages of manuscript - listed by Teller-Ratner, in B-flat, from ca.1848. ELSchissel (talk) 18:00, 4 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Missing piece:

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Theme, Variations and Choral on the Dies Irae (for organ solo). Couldn't find an opus number. Wolfgang Kaul (talk) 23:09, 17 October 2022 (UTC)Reply