Talk:List of countries by intentional death rate
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edit- Note: The main xlsx source spreadsheet for homicide data is in wikitext table form here: User:Timeshifter/Sandbox44.
Strange ranking
editEgypt and Syria among the first five <-> two countries torn by civil unrest and civil war, respectively... Maybe this list is valid for the period before 2010. Mazarin07 (talk) 13:59, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Original research and data errors
editThe data for Egypt, Maldives etc neither matches the wikipedia pages nor the WHO / UNODC source. I am fixing a few and tagging this. M Tracy Hunter (talk) 18:07, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Sourcing
editFrom WHO | Suicide: "September 2014: Release of WHO’s first global report on suicide prevention." Some newer data may be showing up. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Alphabetical order
editAlphabetical order is easier to maintain. For an example:
Sorting issue
editThe "Homicide" column gets sorted alphabetically instead of numerically (for example, when you sort descending, you get: 91.6, 9.1, 8.8, ... 7.5, 69.2, 6.9, ...). Dianacretu (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Fixed this issue, however the other issues remain (suicide and homicide values not summing to the total, and values not matching source data). Allen 202.53.203.180 (talk) 20:28, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Possible Math Error
editIs there any reason why the value for Intentional death is not the sum of homicide and suicide? Doctordubin (talk) 08:34, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Serbia and Montenegro
editlisted as a single country still, the two separated in 2006. Perhaps they should be removed?--ERAGON (talk) 23:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
WARNING: Possible data errors
editMost edits since 2014 have been by anonymous IPs who changed the numerical values with no explanation and no references. I don't know if these changes were helpful or vandalism. Hopefully someone with time on their hands can verify the data. Also, all data should be coming from the same reliable source. Right now data in the table comes from various sources that may have different standards of measurement. --JHP (talk) 20:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
My bad edit
editI stupidly reverted JHP's edits, thinking I was on the List of countries by intentional homicide rate - rather than this one. But it brings up a point for me - should we be using WHO data on the intentional homicide rate page, rather than the current UNODC? How would we maintain that there's a standard of any sort - both sources are considered reliable, but their numbers (for homicides) differ significantly. Just curious. Anastrophe (talk) 02:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
- Ack. Now I see that this article ostensibly uses UNODC for homicides. But the figure here for the US is 4.8/100k, and not using UNODC, while list of homicides does use UNODC and has it at 3.9/100k for 2013. I'm confused. Anastrophe (talk) 02:35, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
How are rankings determined?
editI don't understand how the "Rank" column works. For example, I see no reason why China should be no. 30 or why South Korea should be no. 16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mriiszhia (talk • contribs) 03:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)