Talk:List of country names in various languages (J–P)
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Is it possible for Wikipedia to go forwards instead of backwards?
editI note with some disturbance progressive changes by Wikipedians that result in a loss of useful information. The specific example I would like to refer to is this:
- Chinese (by which I mean Mandarin Chinese) has two names for Laos. One is 老挝, the other is 寮國. The first is used in Mainland China. The second is used in Taiwan. Both can be considered Mandarin Chinese (or putonghua or guoyu, whichever name you prefer to use). The article originally had both names, entered thus: 老挝 (Mainland China), 寮國 (Taiwan).
- On 14 February 2006, User: Che829 changed this to: 老挝 (Mainland Chinese), 寮國 (Taiwanese). This is an inaccurate edit. The name 寮國 is not Taiwanese. If anything, it should be identified as Taiwan Mandarin.
- On 20 February 2006, User: Alanmak changed this to: 老挝 /寮國 (Chinese). This is not inaccurate, but it loses the very useful information that one variant is standard on the Mainland, the other is standard on Taiwan. I find it difficult to understand why a user would want to delete useful information from Wikipedia.
- On 30 March, User: Dakilang Isagani changed this entry to: Lǎowō - 老挝/寮國(Mandarin Chinese). The information that this is Mandarin Chinese has been reinstated, and the pronunciation of the first term (老挝) indicated. However, the pronunciation of the second term (寮國) is not indicated, giving the impression that it, too, is pronounced as Lǎowō.
The result of all these changes is the loss of the information (1) that 寮國 is a Taiwanese usage and (2) 寮國 is actually a different word, with different pronunciation, from 老挝. The original article, which gave the information "老挝 (Mainland China), 寮國 (Taiwan)", was far more informative and with a little editing could have become even more useful. (e.g. Lǎowō 老挝 (Chinese - Mainland), Liáoguó 寮國 (Chinese - Taiwan).
I fail to see that the combined efforts of three different editors has contributed much to either the article or the sum of human knowledge. Now someone needs to go through and correct the results of these cumulative edits. This is really a complete waste of time.
Language templates
editThis page, and others in the series, should use the multilingual support templates, such as {{lang-fr}}. Please help to implement them. Thank you.Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Where is Northern Ireland?
editIf other constituent parts of the United Kingdom such as Wales can be included, then why not Northern Ireland? The following is the only reason given:
- Note: The name "Ireland" can refer either to the independent state otherwise known as the Republic of Ireland or the island which consists of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland (the latter being part of the UK).
This is a lame excuse. The article is country names not island names, thus Northern Ireland should have its own entry. Mabuska (talk) 17:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
New Discussion
editA discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Deletions reverted
editAs noted in the intro, "This article attempts to give all known alternative names for all nations, countries and sovereign states. It does not offer any opinion about what the "original", "official", "real", or "correct" name of any country is or was." So I've reverted the deletion from the article, which was made with the edit summary "Country Name 3 times (Korea) either call it Korea and delete North Korea and South Korea or keep the border between the Two you can't have it both ways". If you think there should be a single naming convention used, then please propose one, and please get consensus here before resuming deletion. Filing Flunky (talk) 02:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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