Talk:List of cricketers banned for corruption
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Years of ban
editIf possible, how about putting in the year when each ban was awarded?
POV
editIsn't this list full of POV? How can one assume that they are guilty until it has been established by the law of the land. As I understand Prabhakar, Azhar etc have taken the matter to court. Reading the article cursorily could give the impression that their guilt was established by due process of law. The sentences in the final column should be modified to state: Declared guilty as per the BCCI. They reject this and have taken the matter to court where it is currently sub-judice.. Comments?--Shahab (talk) 14:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
This was a valid point at the time, but the trio in question were found guilty in a court of law: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/01/pakistan-reacts-spot-fixing-convictions Esterson (talk) 09:35, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Mervyn Westfield
editI think it is a bit misleading to have Mervyn Westfield listed as "England" under the heading of "National Team" when his misdemeanour occurred when playing for Essex, and he never played for England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Westfield Esterson (talk) 09:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
"Loose talk and unsubstantiated bragging"?
editSince when is bragging grounds for getting a ban, and what does that have to do with match-fixing? The article cited says nothing about "loose talk and unsubstantiated bragging".104.35.54.238 (talk) 19:39, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 21 April 2016
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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) — Natg 19 (talk) 00:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
List of cricketers banned for match fixing → List of cricketers banned for corruption – Many entries in the article are not related to "match fixing". Some cricketers are banned for "spot fixing", which is technically not "match fixing", whereas some others are banned for having not disclosed approaches of fixing (even when they have not fixed matches themselves). "loose talk and unsubstantiated bragging" and "Illegal approach" don't exactly mean "match fixing" either. Cricinfo also has a separate section called Corruption in cricket under which these entries are reported. 117.221.125.177 (talk) 17:16, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support Spot-fixing it not match fixing, and taking bribes isn't necessarily the same either. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:11, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support: Agree with Joseph2302, not every entry in the list is for match fixing: you can spot fix (e.g. bowl a wide or no ball at a certain point in the match) without affecting the overall result of the match, and many of the entries cite "associating with bookmakers" – it's not clear whether this was to fix a result or to profit in some other way. Richard3120 (talk) 18:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support: It's an issue of corruption in cricket. So technically if you keep them separate then you have to create articles separately on match-fixing, spot-fixing, betting scandal which is really not necessary. So a whole corruption list would be sufficient enough. Arka 92 19:31, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: It's not clear to me that 'Bringing the game into disrepute through "loose talk and unsubstantiated bragging"' is a corruption offence any more than it is a match-fixing offence. Thus it's not really a good reason to move the article from the one to the other. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agree, so I'd support a page move, and removal of Mohnish Mishra from the table, possibly with a note that he was also banned, but not related to corruption. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
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