Talk:List of dams in Saga Prefecture
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Removing Image column
editThough adding to the visual appeal of the list, I've deleted the "Image" column due to inconsistency in availability of images so that the list can flow with even row heights. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:28, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that didn't work out - most of the rows are template creations and I've not decided whether to revises those templates. So -- the image column remains. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Ceyockey: I've converted to a version without the images. I agree we are short of images for most of these dams, so a column is probably not needed. What do you think? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:45, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- If onle we had a "more convenient" version where people could get rid of the image column easily... Oh wait, we had that until you converted back to the Wikidata version for no benefit at all. Fram (talk) 10:09, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- That is actually incorrect. With one edit to the template I can add or remove a column very easily, rather than spend 5-10 mins per article changing all the wikicode. That is the power of using templates! Anyway the main reason I prefer to keep this in template form (which I will revert to shortly) is that it will reflect updates and improvements to referencing that are made on Wikidata. I am in the middle of importing a lot of data from infobox templates into Wikidata, but this article will not benefit in its current form. As soon as you convert it to a static table you are making it much less likely that it will be up-to-date. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Considering that you had to create a new template (not just edit one), and then change each line in the article anyway, your argument falls rather flat. "updates and improvements to referencing that are made on Wikidata.", rather a strong claim as none of it was decently sourced in the first place. Please do not revert, it is getting disruptive. Fram (talk) 15:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note that I also made the list sortable. When I attempted the same, in preview, on List of dams in Hokkaido Prefecture (which is as of now in the Wikidata format), sorting on the date gave weird results. Doesn't look to be incorrect on Wikidata, and impossible to fix in the article itself it seems. Please don't revert this list back to such a buggy, editor-unfriendly version. Fram (talk) 15:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- I believe I have fixed the sorting issue and you can test the result on List of dams in Hokkaido Prefecture — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:26, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- That is actually incorrect. With one edit to the template I can add or remove a column very easily, rather than spend 5-10 mins per article changing all the wikicode. That is the power of using templates! Anyway the main reason I prefer to keep this in template form (which I will revert to shortly) is that it will reflect updates and improvements to referencing that are made on Wikidata. I am in the middle of importing a lot of data from infobox templates into Wikidata, but this article will not benefit in its current form. As soon as you convert it to a static table you are making it much less likely that it will be up-to-date. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- If onle we had a "more convenient" version where people could get rid of the image column easily... Oh wait, we had that until you converted back to the Wikidata version for no benefit at all. Fram (talk) 10:09, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Ceyockey: I've converted to a version without the images. I agree we are short of images for most of these dams, so a column is probably not needed. What do you think? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:45, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
conversion to full wikidata-sourced list
editI've replaced the handful of rows at the top with wikidata-derived rows. In relation to this type of list, I've post an inquiry at Wikipedia talk:Lists about this seemingly new list type. I generally support this list type, but await consensus seeking discussions. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:14, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Feedback from New Page Review process
editI left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: I've worked to argue that this constitutes a new list type. Your input would be useful. --02:17, 31 August 2022 (UTC).